Musical Storytelling and the Art of Cabaret, with Fiona-Jane Weston

Today on the show we’re excited to be joined by one of London’s leading cabaret performers, Fiona-Jane Weston. Fiona-Jane has created and performed several highly-acclaimed cabaret shows in the UK and internationally, including “Wartime Women”, about the roles women have historically played in warfare and “Looking For Lansbury”, celebrating the life, heritage and career of actress Angela Lansbury.

Cabaret is a performing art that we’ve enjoyed but never really known a ton about and we were really curious to see what an expert like Fiona-Jane might be able to share, since it would likely channel musicality in a different form than that of a performing musician. It really lived up to that expectation, there were some really interesting ideas here that we haven’t talked about on the show before.

In this conversation we talk about:

  • What defines cabaret, and what makes for “good” cabaret
  • Story-telling through song, the importance of it both in cabaret and in music more generally, and
  • Connecting with your audience and what we can learn from the uniquely intimate environment of cabaret

Something that came out of our discussion that we weren’t expecting was why cabaret might be more accessible to you, or any passionate amateur musician, than you might have imagined…

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Transcript

Christopher: Welcome to the show, Fiona-Jane. Thank you for joining us today.

Fiona-Jane: Thank you for having me.

Christopher: I’m really excited to talk with you because I have enjoyed Cabaret as a lay person but it’s not something I know anything about in great depth and you are someone who knows about it in intimate detail. So I’m really excited to learn from you. I want to ask first, were you a Cabaret performer from day one? Did you leap onto the stage at age six singing Cabaret and show tunes or what was your earliest musical experience like?

Fiona-Jane: Probably it was a bit like that, actually if I’m really truthful. I certainly, as a little girl wanted to get up and entertain. And I wanted everyone in the house and all the dolls and all the teddies to be listening while I got up there and did my little bit with an umbrella. I remember doing a little dance and all the rest of it. I would also want to recite my poetry which I called at the age of four postery.

I think it was probably always in there and I do remember looking at old films on the television and seeing these lovely glamorous ladies in their long frocks in films set in the ’30s and ’40s in America. There would be tables and people would be drinking and this lady would come out and she would sing and she would address the audience and so on. I think I knew even then, “Yeah, I’ll do that.” (laughs)

Christopher: Amazing. And what did your early education look like for that? Were you someone who was just natural and went straight into shows and performing? Did you study acting or music along the way?

Fiona-Jane: I studied dancing quite early, actually, because I had a dance teacher come to my school. I just found her fascinating to watch. I don’t know, there was something in me that always lead into that direction although I didn’t receive any formal music training at all. Eventually I persuaded my parents to send me to dance lessons. The acting came very much later. In fact, even with ballet training it was clear that I didn’t really have the flexibility in my body to become a professional dancer, but what I was good at was the character roles and the sort of more fiery, Spanishy sort of roles or trying to express it in stories. Or little Red Riding Hood or something like that where I would be wanting to express an emotion. The acting came out of that recognizing that’s really probably where my talent particularly lay.

My parents were very against anything to do with that. They didn’t want me to go into anything of that type at all so I dutifully did my academic degree. I studied Asian Studies and I learned Mandarin. I wanted to specialize in my thesis the arts, the performing arts of China, particularly Communist China and how it was used for propaganda purposes. Then even further I wanted to look at the performing arts of the minority peoples and how they were trying to keep up their own identity in the face of, well I wouldn’t like to use the word oppression, but I mean, the Han people were very much in dominance. So even my university thesis at honors level was about the minority theaters.

So it was always there and although my parents tried desperately hard to keep me in the academic sphere of things in the end I think you just have to go where your heart’s set and it’s going to … Your natural instincts are going to take you there whether anybody likes it or not, including yourself, really. I kind of had a love hate relationship with the profession I was in.

Christopher: And so where did your heart lead you after university? You were feeling this draw, how did you pursue that?

Fiona-Jane: I joined the Australian Diplomatic Corps in the Aid Department because I was living in Australia at the time. In Canberra at that time there was a strong amateur theater scene and I got involved with that. My first show was a musical and I was cast in the lead. I was terrified but I did it. And it went well, much to my great surprise at the time. Then that lead to this feeling of I’ve just got to do more and more. Then I started doing professional stuff as well and things started…

Well of course the two careers started to clash. Eventually one particularly insightful manager who was from England actually, he called me into his office and he said, “Look, I gave you an assignment which was way above your level and I confess it, I gave it to you because I was too lazy to do it myself. And I have to say that your historical and political analysis is second to none. Your finance section was a complete mess.” And I said, “Well, I never did say I could add up.” And he said, “Look, I have to tell you that you are a square peg in a round hole. You are never going to fit in here. You are never going to rise to the top here, not least because you’re female, but also because the way you think and the way you act and the way you respond to things. It’s just not going to work here. I think you should go and do what your heart is set on.”

Within three weeks I had packed up my bags and I had left Australia and I came to England in a pursuit of a theatrical career. That’s what I did. I had also in the meantime done some training, quite a lot of professional training in Australia, part time. Yeah, that’s how I did it.

Christopher: Wow, what a brave and romantic leap you took across the ocean.

Fiona-Jane: Well I don’t know if it felt that romantic at that time. I think I was just very dogged. I thought, well I’ve had enough training and experience by then to know that actually I did have something I could offer and I thought, well I’m just going to do it because I was miserable working in any other environment, really. So I though, well, okay, here it is. Here I go. That’s what I did. So I came back. I had family here, too.

Christopher: Tell us a little bit about that training you’d had along the way.

Fiona-Jane: I took singing lessons professionally. I took that very seriously. I kept doing a lot of performance, as much as I could get. Being as it was a small town and there weren’t that many people. There wasn’t such a big pool. If I’d been somewhere like Sydney it would have been much more difficult, I’m sure. The competition would have been just so much greater. But in Canberra then it was still very much a small town, although it’s the capital of Australia. It was the administrative center.

I had a lot of experience actually doing it. Plus I took the singing training, plus I took the acting training. The acting training didn’t cover music but it very much tapped into my instincts that were already there and gave me the technique I needed to be able to approach a character and tap into that creative element which enables you to improvise and to find where the character lies and also where the inner internal story is. That set me up in many ways for the approach that I’ve taken to things every since.

Although my initial degree was in modern asian studies it was very much based on history and politics and so on. Even that was all story telling. Even that was all about the history of how China became a Communist country. I learned Mandarin. I lived in China for a while and I became very interested in the women’s stories, particularly. I was very interested in women’s history anyway because of my training in Australia at school, really. Germaine Greer came from Queensland, who set up the whole women’s movement there and so on.

That was always in there. I think the whole package of history being a story, whether it’s his story or in more modern parlance we might say her story if we’re talking about women’s history. And wanting to tell stories and wanting to entertain, all of that, it all slotted in together. And that was really how it all began.

Christopher: Wonderful. There were a couple of things that I am particularly keen to dig into a little bit. One is what you just touched on, that you have a particular interest and ability in combining the historical viewpoint with the musical artistic creative output. We’ll circle back to that in a moment. The other thing you mentioned was that your training had helped you tap into the character and the story and the emotion that would bring the music to life in an effective way. That’s something I’d really like to hear more about because on this show we talk a lot about, I suppose, expressiveness in music and musically meaningful performances and what distinguishes a robotic player from one who really seems to have a gift for music and really wows the audience. I think you have a particularly interesting perspective on this because you come, maybe more from the acting side than the conservative musician side of things where the musician might be thinking in notes and scales and dynamics and very technical terms. You come in at it, I believe, more from the story telling perspective and the actor’s mind set.

Fiona-Jane: Yes. Yes. I think you tell a story in theater in so many ways. Everything has to tell that story for it to be a successful performance. Everybody does, whether it’s the lighting person, whether it’s the set designer, the costume, the director, obviously, the performers, the actors and the music, too. Even the music that doesn’t have words attached to it should be lending itself to that story.

Sometimes interestingly the melody that’s played underneath a tune that the singer might be singing might actually be contradicting what the singer is singing with words. You hear that very particularly in a lot of Sondheim’s music, but other’s, too, and that adds a very interesting age to it. For example, one example I can think of is In Buddy’s Eyes, which was from Follies. It’s not a song that I’ve sung but it’s a song I’ve listened too quite a lot. It starts off really quite sentimentally and she’s sort of saying, “Oh, my husband still really loves me. Even though I’m old, in his eyes I never get older. He will always be there for me,” and so on.

Then as it goes on you realize that something’s not quite right here. There’s something in the accompaniment that suggest she’s either not speaking the truth or she’s denying the truth because she can’t face it. If you’re listening out for things like that that’s where you know that you’re on to something. You’re on to something. That’s where the performer, by clueing into things like that can use the dynamics, can also change the quality of their voice and change the way they’re looking at the character they’re talking to or moving. The body language should change too, just sort of to indicate, “Yeah, I’m saying all of these marvelous things, Yes, yes, yes, this is really true,” but underneath “I just … Actually, no I’m in love with you and always was. I’m not in love with my husband.” That’s really what she’s saying, really, underneath it. And the marriage has not been successful that she’s been living all these years.

Christopher: Interesting. Over those years when you were training you mentioned training had helped in some regard with this aspect of things. Were there any particular techniques or ideas that helped you figure out how to do that? I thing as you describe it people can understand the kind of thing you’re talking about, but it’s very different to get up on stage and take ownership of that role and figure that stuff out for yourself maybe.

Fiona-Jane: I don’t think I was trained in that. I don’t think so. I think that came simply from an awful lot of listening and an awful lot of thinking and wanting to portray the person. I was more intent on presenting the person I was trying to become then I was in anything else. But because it’s music you can’t just change the timing on it completely without any sense. You do need to be listening to where the music is taking you as well.
So rather than fight against that it’s a case of using it. But having said that, depending on the genre, particularly with Cabaret, and particularly with anything with anything jazz orientated, obviously, you can play with the rhythms and the tempo in order to express an idea in a different way as long as you don’t go completely out of sync with one another.

That sort of thing I learned through experience and also through working with musical directors who understood what I was trying to do and we were able to have that kind of conversation whereby they were to some extent able to follow me but also I was learning to listen to them. I think it’s about listening a lot and it’s about communication. I wouldn’t say that it came through any of my formal training at all. Certainly some acting through song workshops that I’ve attended. Some of this has been touched on. And particularly musical theater performers they often are looking for expressive ways to doing it. Incidentally, a lot of musical theater performers don’t read music or don’t read music very well. There’s something in the way in which we are taught to think like that. If you’re working with actors I would strongly recommend that if you can get the actors to think about motivations and feelings they will probably breathe at the right points in any case, even if they can’t read a note.

Christopher: That’s amazing. I think it’s such a valuable lens to think about all of this through because thinking now about the listener who maybe plays an instrument but doesn’t do any acting and doesn’t think in terms of theater. It’s such a powerful mind set shift to actually ask yourself, “What is this music trying to say?” Not just, “Am I playing the right notes at the right time and obeying the dynamic markings, but what am I trying to get across to the audience?”

I look back somewhat embarrassedly at when I was learning clarinet or saxophone and I was playing one of the movements from Mussorgsky Pictures at an Exhibition and this is a work of music composed around visual art, around a painting. I literally never saw the painting. I worked for months on this piece and it never occurred to me, “I could go and find out what this was inspired by and what he was trying to conjure up.” Looking back that just seems ridiculous, but I think it’s so easy as musicians to get trapped in that bubble of dots on a page or just the notes and the technique. We forget that it is a storytelling art to a large extent or it can be and we should always be asking that question of, “What am I trying to convey or express?”

Fiona-Jane: Yes. I don’t think the musicians are the only ones who are guilty of that either. I think actually a lot of dancers are. It becomes such an exercise in gymnastic technique and that, it’s. There is a danger that you’re not going to move anybody, that you’re not … Cause really, a dancer too is telling a story through their movement and through their whole feeling and embodiment of the emotion of the time. I think it’s very important not to lose sight of that. There’s an audience out there. This isn’t an exercise in self-indulgence. It’s important to be able to do that. But also, to be fair, not all music is easily lent to doing that. Again, Stephen Sondheim is notoriously difficult. Everybody knows that you know, his rhythms are very, very tricky. And it’s often very fiddly. It can take a long time to learn his stuff. But I tell you what, actors, who have never read a note of music, adore doing his things.

And there’s a reason for that. The reason is, really, that he writes so well for a character. He’s actually thinking what the character is thinking. And therefore, these strange, odd little moments of pauses and rests that came in the middle of a line, are actually there for a dramatic reason. And I was taught, I mean, I’ve sung quite a lot of, quite a number of times now, “Worst Pies in London,” I only had one lesson to learn how to do that. Because I could only see this particular vocal coach for one lesson, for one hour. And what she did, was help me to sort of see what the character, well what that part of it I could work out for myself. Where the characters might have, what the character is feeling in different sections of the song. But in order to help me get some of these odd rhythms, she also got me to go “Mmm,” or clap or stamp my foot or do something where something strange was about to happen. So that I didn’t sing the notes where I thought I should be singing the notes. But rather, where that “Mmm”, do you see?

Try to think out those now. “Wait, what’s your rush, what’s your hurry? You gave me such a “gasp” fright, I thought you was a ghost, oh come in” So that “gasp” thought you were a ghost. You see? You’ve got to have that thing there. And I thought well actually if she’s thinking about a ghost, she might do that little intake of breath. And so by doing it in that mechanical way, she got me to speak it and put some kind of sound or intake of, loud intake of breath in where these strange pauses were. And then, by going over that and getting that into my body, I suddenly found all of the dramatic reasons to do it. And [inaudible 00:18:42] is brilliant for that, absolutely wonderful.

Christopher: So we’ve abandoned the poor, young, Fiona-Jane midway across the ocean on our way back to London. Where did things go from there, when you were returning to this, well maybe not returning to, but you were starting a fresh, a new, career direction for you and a new purpose in life?

Fiona-Jane: Well it took a few years to really kind of establish where I was really. Apart from anything else. Because I didn’t know London at all and so, it’s just trying to get settled. Although I did get a job within a year. In fact, it was within a few months after arriving here. I got a job at the theater, a children’s theater going around. And again, music was part of that as well. And then, I got a job in a cabaret. Oh not a cabaret, sorry. In a pantomime where I, oh this is cringe making but, I played the maid that got to marry the handsome prince. And in the meantime, the handsome prince and I actually became romantically entangled, off stage, as well as on. And then of course, I settled. And he was an actor as well. So that’s really where, obviously that then grounded me here. And I just took things as they came along.

I took as many classes as I could in professional theater because you can do that in London and in many places like City Lit. Where a professional level you could actually go in. And also, there was a marvelous singing teacher for actors that came in from America. His name was Chuck Culson. And he was fabulous. He would say to us, it was a bunch of actors because there were actors there who were terrified of singing. Terrified that they sang out of tune and all sorts of things. I loved it. They were scared of doing it, which is why they came to that class. And he would say things that would just liberate them. To be who they were. And we got to write down the words and to learn the words quite separately from the music. So that we could bring all our acting instincts to that, we liked to a piece of poetry. And then he would just say things like, “The audience don’t care if you had to splash this about 37 times before you got that line right. It doesn’t matter. Look, the audience don’t care and neither does Chuck.”
And I learned from that. It doesn’t matter how many times you had to learn to sing that song, as long as, when you get in there, you’re fine.

Christopher: Mm-hmm (affirmative). Wonderful. And at some point in this journey, cabaret entered the picture and became a real focus for you. How did that come to be?

Fiona-Jane: Well I got to an age where I was not getting the amount of work that I had been getting. And I wasn’t quite in the next age bracket so that I was in this kind of, slightly awkward in-between part. And I got very fed up with not getting any work. And so I went to become, I actually took my PGCE, I became a primary school teacher. And I realized within about 10 minutes that this was a bit of a mistake actually. Although I enjoyed teaching young children, I didn’t enjoy the restrictions of the whole system and so on. I just thought “Oh gosh now I can’t, this is not going to keep me satisfied at all.” And within a couple of years, I had to stop anyway, because I had become ill over something.

I had to stop for a while to get some sick leave. And in that time, I took that time to rethink what I was doing. And I took the exams to become a teacher in The London Academy of Music and Dramatic Art. The LAMDA exams to become a LAMDA teacher as well as do my ballet exam, teaching as well. And in the, in those, it’s changed now. But at that time, you had to choose an entire century of the drama and the prose and the poetry of a century. So you might be able to choose the Elizabethan era or the Greeks. And like an idiot, I chose 20th century because I thought all I know of the drama content already pretty well.

And my teacher did say to me, she said “Look, I understand why you might like the idea of taking the 20th century, but you do realize that was the one where everybody could read and write. And it’s a vast amount of work. And you do have a lot of gaps in your poetry and prose?” Well I still did it, like a fool. And I managed to get through it. But one of the parts of that exam, was after you had done your viva about all of the knowledge behind it, you then had to give a 20 minute presentation where you had to include a piece of poetry, a piece of drama and a piece of prose from that era. And you couldn’t include more than one piece.

But it all had to be linked in some way. That became the basis. I did that, a piece on 20th century woman. And the progression that women had made throughout that century. That then became the basis for my first one woman show. And I took the idea to a director, a good friend of mine. We worked on it, and I created this cabaret with him. And put it on at the Battersea Barge. Then not long after that, I got an opportunity to audition for Yale. Yale University, there was a cabaret intensive course going on there that was loosely related to the drama department there. And I got a scholarship, much to my great surprise. So I knew I had to go because there was no excuse then. I had to do it.

There were amazing people teaching us. I mean, just amazing people. Do you know the Rose? Amanda McBroom?

Christopher: No.

Fiona-Jane: Some say love it is a river … anyway it was one of the most famous songs of the time. Bette Midler had a big hit with it. The woman who wrote that, Amanda McBroom, was on the course. There was people that were very well known in America including Tony Award winners. People like Tovah Feldshuh and Sally Mayes and all sorts of very known people there. Teaching us. And they were, their whole intents and purpose was to get us to sing the songs, tell the story through the song and actually make the cabaret. To actually encourage us in how to make a cabaret happen. And I came away from that, realizing that I not only knew what I was talking about already with cabaret, but more to the point, I knew what I knew what I was talking about.

If that makes sense. Suddenly I had the confidence to realize I do know about this. This is actually always what I’ve been working towards. And then that started off a whole lot about the shows. I had all of this creativity going on. And I just, it’s been a game changer. It really has. From then, I’ve always had a project that I’ve been wanting to do. And perform. And it’s taken me all over the place. It’s taken, I do one on Wartime Women, looking at the roles women have played throughout warfare. It’s concentrating mainly on the great wars. And that’s taken me to Belgium and so on. And so, I still do plays, I still get work in the theater, but mostly, I concentrate on my cabaret career.

Christopher: Terrific. And I’m going to ask on behalf of maybe some of our listeners who aren’t familiar. What is cabaret? Before we talk more in depth about it.

Fiona-Jane: Oh, gosh, that is not an easy question to answer actually. Because it has so many meanings. It’s such a wide umbrella. On one end of the scale, you’ve got very much what I call the alternative scene with the burlesque. And circus training and so on. And more at the other end, and much more sort of, if you’d like it, more classical. What I would call song book cabaret, is people singing. And the important thing about that, is that unlike a concert, where there’s a distance between you and the audience, and unlike a musical where you are completely embodying a character, it is you singing to the audience and expressing your ideas and emotions. To the audience, breaking down what we might call the fourth wall. So in the theater you’ve got the three walls around you. The left, the right and behind you. And then there’s supposed to be an invisible, fourth wall between you and the audience.

So that if your a character, you’re staying in your living room. You’re not actually supposed to be aware of the audience out in front. In cabaret we break that completely down. And you are very much talking to the audience themselves. They are very much part of that. It’s a small, intimate setting. People are sitting around tables, drinking, ordering drinks from the bar. You can address people in the audience. I’ve been addressed from the stage. You know say “Oh, Fiona-Jane Weston is in” and they have a little chat and they come around. And you know, you can go around, have a little flirt with people and so on. Then you go back onto the stage and then you will sing something else that, either you are telling something through that. Not only through the songs, but hopefully, some kind of theme.

Not to the point where you get completely caught up in it, necessarily. But it’s, you’ve got so much more scope to take it in a new direction. So you might take a song, that was originally written for a show, perhaps. And then you can change it to suit that new occasion where it’s telling a different story. And you might want to express a different emotion through it and bring something very new to that. And sing it in your own voice, in your own way, because you are expressing another idea with that. And rather like when you go to an art gallery, you’re look at a painting but if it’s placed next to another painting, it will have a different aspect to it that you hadn’t thought of. Because of where it’s placed. So that’s a very long answer.

But that’s the sort of things you need to be thinking about if you’re going to put together a show yourself. It’s not just a case of this is a song by whoever and this is another song I like because I like it, I’m going to sing it. It, really ideally you want to have something a little bit more concrete in your reasoning for choosing the piece. And for singing it to the audience.

Christopher: I see.

Fiona-Jane: Does that help?

Christopher: It does. Wonderful description. And I think it really highlights what we were talking about before and the importance both from remembering you have an audience, and you need to connect with them. And this idea of weaving a story through your songs, I think it’s immediately clear now why cabaret connected with you so much. If those were the things you were feeling drawn too and feeling you were good at. So just a quick clarification, you mentioned another term people might have heard, which is “One Woman Show,” is cabaret always a solo endeavor where it’s one person presenting the entire performance? Or how does it work?

Fiona-Jane: It generally is but it doesn’t have to be at all. There are various ways you can do it. I mean there are duos that get up and do a piece together, as a duet together. Usually one, some sort of semi-comedic situation. You could effectively do it with a larger group, as well, depending on how it’s structured, really. As much as anything else. Certainly. I mean I have another form of the cabaret too, which is Fiona-Jane and West End Friends. And I run it rather like a chat show. So that I open the set with a couple of songs myself and then explain to the audience what the concept of that is. And I bring on guest artists. And they might be a West End performer, they might also be a musical director or a choreographer who might have something else to share. Some other perspective on the business. I will also, always have a cabaret singer, if I can.

And I’ll entertain them. I’ll give them a [inaudible 00:30:44], or a drink or a cocktail or something. We’ll sit down at the table and we’ll chat together about their projects and what they’re doing. And then they get up and do something. So they can show something of their work. And if it’s a musical director, who doesn’t want to sing, they might bring another guest artist. So everybody gets a chance to network. But then you might, I might have as many as seven or eight people at some point, joining me on stage. So it doesn’t have to be a solo thing. So if somebody is a bit afraid of doing that, join forces with somebody else who wants to do it. Get in a director, get someone else who can help you. Preferably somebody who understands the genre. But, it’s, you don’t have to be completely on your own.

Especially if you’re starting out and you’re not sure how to go about it. There are, there is help out there. And you don’t have to perform by yourself all the time.

Christopher: Wonderful. So I’d like to circle back to something I said I would come back to, which was that you are particularly able and known for weaving together historical themes or kind of, real life matter of fact issues. Like women in the 20th century, or you did one cabaret show on the history and maybe mythology of London. And I would love to hear more about that, because I think you touched on feeling drawn to do all of this. You said you were never short of projects now that you had found your medium.

I know that if I were feeling inspired to, say, put on a show about London, I would immediately feel very intimidated, because it’s such a big thing, and it’s something everyone’s going to have an opinion on. Compared to sitting in my bedroom and writing a love song out of nowhere, it can seem, I think, quite intimidating or quite overwhelming. I’d love to hear how you found your way into that, and any advice you’d have for someone who is feeling similarly inspired, but maybe can’t see the route from that inspiration to actually putting something together.

Fiona-Jane: The London show was, that was pretty vast actually, 2,000 years of London in less than two hours was, yeah. Yeah, there was a bit of pressure there. … so much written about and for the performing arts. All of the music hall material, for a start. You’ve also got Samuel Pepys’s diary. I used some of that. Not everybody can do spoken word, but I loved bringing in spoken word for mine. There is poetry written about London. There, all sorts of anecdotes people have had to say about it. Songs about London.

Find all of the things that you love about whatever it is that you want to talk about. Sift through it. Throw them all on the floor, and then move them about like a pack of cards. All right? Then decide, start to shape your show from that. There are various techniques that you can use to do that. You can look entirely at the…

I would always suggest that you start with the lyrics as much as anything else. Start with the lyrics, because you might find that you’ll see a story naturally emerging. Then shuffle your cards around again, and see where something comes from that. Then, think about where the musical highlights are, where the comedic highlights are, where you’re going to be doing something different. Are you going to be bringing on a guest artist? Then slowly, a shape will emerge.

Then you’ll have something far too long, and you’ll have to cut a million things out. The art, as with a lot of these things, is in what you keep in and what you cut out. It’s quite difficult. Sometimes it takes more than one performance for you to realize that, “You know what? That bit is still too long. I’m going to have to cut this or that,” or, “I might bring that bit back in that I thought I would cut.”

Don’t be afraid to experiment in front of people. Don’t be afraid to get in a test audience. Slowly, it will come together, but it will come together, and it will be the most satisfying thing you’ve ever done.

Christopher: You touched on something that I don’t think we’ve talked about yet, which is that spoken word can be a feature of it. Cabaret is not just singing song after song, or at least not necessarily. Are there other things that people should keep in mind as what could be a part of their cabaret show?

Fiona-Jane: Yes. If you’re a good instrumentalist and you’ve got something you can do with that, do it. There is a chap in the States, in New York. I saw him. Can’t remember his name. I can’t tell you it, but he does a whole cabaret with his violin. He tells… In a way, he makes musical jokes with the violin. Again, if you’ve got a musical director with you, if you’ve got a pianist with you who is a bit of a showman, use that. Use that. If you can have some kind of rapport with the person who’s accompanying you, use that. Don’t let anybody just sit there.

If you’ve got other talents that you want to bring to the fore… A friend of mine is very, very good at comedic things. She brings in a lot of her comedic work to it. Use whatever you want to to express those, those aspects of yourself, because cabaret is about being you on stage, even if it’s a persona you’ve created. You’ve got that freedom to do that, and also it’s what people want. People want to connect with you. It’s much more personal than it would be if you were doing a concert that’s got a big distance between you. People want to feel somehow that they’ve got to know the essence of you by watching your show. Yes, anything that you have that’s a passion, that’s an interest, bring something of that in, definitely.

Christopher: That’s really cool.

Fiona-Jane: It’s a case of structuring it. Yeah.

Christopher: I think what has come across clearly to me that I was maybe not fully appreciative before is the careful thought and planning that goes into a good cabaret show. I think that’s maybe a little bit because that word is bandied about a lot. You alluded to there being this whole spectrum, but I think there are also probably a lot of things called cabaret that maybe are not really. For example, I’ve definitely come across cases where it’s really used to mean talent show. We’ll get a group of a dozen people. We’ll let them each do the song they know or the juggling act they can do. We’ll put it all together in one performance and call that a cabaret.

Fiona-Jane: Yeah.

Christopher: I think what’s really come across from hearing you talk about this is that it is much more intentional. The fact that there is a casual atmosphere by no means means that it’s a casual act that you threw together. There can be intense thought and planning and preparation that goes into it.

Fiona-Jane: Yes, yes, yeah. Also, I personally don’t like it if the performers themselves are too casual in the way they dress or… Depending on their act, I mean, obviously it may not always apply, but generally speaking, I think that when people come to a cabaret of this type, they want to see something glamorous. They want to see something that’s going to take them out of the world. It might be a girls’ night out. It might be very important to them. You might be taking your mother out for something. This would be a dress up occasion. It should be something that people really look forward to.

Don’t let your audience down. Don’t go in there dressing like you would to go to the shops. Really make the effort. This is a form of theater in its own way. Lift people out of where they are. That’s our job. That’s what we’re meant to do. That’s why we’re here. That’s what performance is all about. As my doctor once said to me, he said, “We don’t need any more accountants. We don’t need people like that. We need people like you who get up and entertain.” So get out and entertain. Be a star that shines.

Christopher: I love that what I just said somewhat disparagingly about talent shows, there is a kernel of truth there which you talked about, which is that it is an expression of yourself and your own abilities and your own passions. I think that makes it a very versatile art form. It’s not you having to force yourself into a certain role, or a whole work of music or theater, and doing it exactly as written. This is something that you craft yourself to match what you are naturally strongest at and passionate about.

Fiona-Jane: I have a couple of German friends who bring the most interesting perspective on their cabaret. They really do, because of course Germany has a very fine tradition of it with the Weimar. Watching what they can do with their pieces, and what they bring their own history and their own family history into that, is great. It really is. There’s so many things. Go to yourself. Go to your own story and see what you can bring out. That will be … People will find it interesting, because they’re interested in other people’s lives apart from their own.

Christopher: Well, I have to say it never occurred to me that cabaret could be as accessible a form of expression as you have made it sound. This sounds like something that anyone who’s done a bit of singing, or done a bit of music, and has a passion for a particular topic could put together themselves. Are there any caveats or any pointers you’d give to someone who’s been listening to this and feeling super excited about maybe putting a cabaret together themselves?

Fiona-Jane: I would say definitely try. Definitely go for it, because I think people get a lot of pleasure from it. Keep an eye on where you’re going to perform it. Remember, by and large, the space that you have physically is likely to be very small. Don’t put in a whole great big dance number that requires a big stage, because you ain’t going to have the room. By all means, if you’re a dancer and you want to show that, you can. There are people who do that, but just member how small and tight the space is going to be, so a lot of your expression has to be made within that space.

Remember that you are including people in the audience. If some rooms are very strangely set up, and it’s difficult to connect with everybody in that audience, practice that in your rehearsals. I do think it’s a good idea to work with a director if you can. Work with somebody who is good at sitting out the front and be able to see where things might improve.

Watch the structure of your work. Remember, this is a long show. If you’re doing it on your own, make sure you’re vocally ready for it, because actually you can’t take a break in a way that you could if you’re in a musical where you might be offstage for … minutes. No, you’re not going to be offstage for 10 minutes, apart from if you set an interval. Even then, that probably means you’ve got a longer show. Your technicality still has to be there. You can’t let that all go to pieces just because you want to be expressive. You’re being more expressive if you’ve got the technique behind you.

Christopher: Great advice. You seem to be someone who not only has a real passion for cabaret and producing your own shows, but also I think you clearly have a kind of advocate spirit in you. You want to encourage people to get involved in this. What are you up to these days? What is Fiona-Jane Weston working on, and what’s coming next?

Fiona-Jane: I’m about to do a version of Fiona-Jane and West End Friends in a private club in the city. That’s going to be in the next couple of weeks. Later in the year, because of Remembrance Sunday coming up again, I’m doing a big charity gala and the Charing Cross Theater, which I’m co-producing with a lady from Belgium, where there’s going to be all sorts of stars from the West End involved in it as well. That’s going to be the proceeds of which will go to people like combat stress, and the British Legion, and so on. That’s on October the 28th.

Then I hope to do some more of Wartime Women, because it’s always such a fun show to do as well, both in Belgium and in London. I also hope to revive another show I’ve done on the actress Angela Lansbury. I’ve got a whole big show on her. That would be nice to be able to bring that out.

Also, I hope to launch some kind of consultancy for people who want to do cabaret, or want to do their own one woman shows or one man shows, even if it doesn’t involve music. If I can be of help to anybody, they’re welcome to contact me. That would be absolutely fine. Get hold of me through my work site.

Christopher: Wonderful. I’m sure it’s clear from listening to this conversation that you would have a wealth of experience and wisdom to share with someone who is at that beginner stage, or even further along in their cabaret journey. Where’s the best place for people to go to learn all about your upcoming shows, and to get in touch if they’d like to, for help with cabaret?

Fiona-Jane: Okay. Go to www.fionajaneweston.com. It’s all one word. FionaJaneWeston. It takes forever to type. Then at the bottom of each page, there is a contact page there. There’s also a little envelope. If you press that … I hope it works. You should be able to get up a form where you can sign up to my newsletter list. That’s where you will know where I’m performing and when. Also, somewhere around all of that is an email address for you. In fact, the email address is the same. It’s just fionajane@FionaJaneWeston.com. Contact me there, and I’ll be delighted to hear from you, because I’d love to know what you’re doing, what your projects are, and what floats your boat, what makes you want to do a cabaret.

Christopher: Wonderful. Thank you. Well, it really has opened my eyes and my mind to what cabaret involves and what it can involve. I am absolutely in no position to run off and produce a cabaret, but I can’t help but feel that I want to right now. You clearly have a-

Fiona-Jane: I’ll get you there.

Christopher: Maybe after this conversation we’ll turn off the recorder, and we can talk some cabaret ideas. It’s been really genuinely inspiring, and I think also enlightening. Whether or not someone’s going away from this wanting to produce a cabaret, there is clearly a ton that any musician can learn from the world of theater and from the world of cabaret. Just a very big thank you, Fiona-Jane, for joining us today and sharing some of your insights on this.

Fiona-Jane: Thank you very much. I’ve loved it. Thank you so much.

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About Frequencies in Music, Part Two

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In the second installment of our series on frequencies in music, we discuss the two major reasons why frequencies matter, and how sound can be understood, defined, and manipulated in terms of its frequencies. http://musl.ink/pod93

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About the Moods of Modes

Have you ever felt confused by musical modes? In this episode, we discuss how you can understand these fascinating scales through active listening and a simple yet eye-opening exercise.

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Christopher: On our recent episode with Marshall McDonald we were talking a little bit about jazz and improvisation. And one topic that comes up almost immediately when you mention jazz improvisation is the idea of modes in music, and so I wanted to pick up on that in this episode and talk a little bit about modes and maybe give a new way of looking at them for anyone who has previously encountered them in a thick music theory textbook, and been a bit baffled or overwhelmed. This is one of our duo episodes. I’m joined today by Anastasia Voitinskaia from the Musical U Team who recently put together a fantastic tutorial on modes for our website, and I wanted her to come in and share a bit about how she presented them in that article, ’cause I thought it was particularly good. Say hi Anastasia.

Anastasia: Hi Anastasia. Just kidding. Hi. It’s nice to be back on here, thank you for having me.

Christopher: So, what I particularly liked about the article and I think I can be fairly complimentary ’cause I wasn’t involved in this one at all, so it’s a musical article, but I did not write it. And what I particularly liked was it was all about the moods of modes and modes are often taught purely in music theory way or in a very kind of logical improvisation context and the article really covered the theory, but really focused on what makes the character of each mode and why we should be interested in modes in the first place. So, we’re not going to be talking in this episode about the in depth nuts and bolts of each mode. You’ll find all of the stuff about intervals and about sharp and flat scale degrees and all of that in the article. And we’ll have a direct link to that in the show notes for this episode, but we will be talking about a couple of the modes and what makes them sound interesting musically. So, I’ll kick off with the simple question, Anastasia, what are modes?

Anastasia: So, to put it simply, a mode is simply a scale that’s derived from the major scale that we already know, but we essentially change what notes play what roles – more on that the musical modes article – and so the sounds and the tone and the mood of the scale changes.

Christopher: Gotcha. And I think back when I was first taught modes, in a way it was really simple, because my teacher just said, “It’s the major scale, but you start on a different note.”

Anastasia: Yes.

Christopher: And when you’re trying to learn the clarinet fingering, that sounds great, but it meant that I was faced immediately with I guess seven new scales, because I could start the major scale from any note instead of just the first one, and I think that’s probably why I never really got a handle on modes. I felt like I had these seven random scales with weird names thrown at me and although the concept of them was simple, I’d never really got a handle on why I should care.

Anastasia: Totally.

Christopher: Or what the musical point of them was. So, maybe you could explain a bit, an easier way for musicians to get their head around the modes. Are there any that are particularly easy to understand or be familiar with?

Anastasia: Well, there is a way of understanding them as you play the major scale, but you simply start on a different note than you usually would. But again, as you said, that just leaves you with seven scales with very funny sounding Greek names. Some of them sound vaguely sinister. Some of them sound happier. Is there a way to really internalize them and make them mean something in your head is kind of just to listen to the sound of each one, because all modes are, are really variations on major and minor scales, but the cool thing about them is they convey moods beyond just happy, bright, major and sort of wistful, melancholy, minor. They can be mysterious. They can be floaty or calm or sinister, foreboding, or even some of them kind of sound rebellious like the Mixolydian scale.

So, really the way to internalize them and the way to make them mean something is to listen to the sound of each one. How does it make you feel? Play the scale. Play the scale ascending and descending. Do a little improv containing just the notes keeping that first note that you play as the tonic and see what it sounds like to you.

Christopher: And I really like that way of looking at it, not just because it’s ear based and we talk a lot on this show about your ear and the important of understanding what’s going on in music by ear and developing that instinct, but because I think it cuts to the heart of why modes are powerful, but also can be confusing, which is that they’re not a strict thing. You know, you talked there about how the mood can be sinister, when ultimately we’re talking about the same notes as the major scale, right? Like if we’re talking about a C major scale, all of the modes derived from that are just going to use the white keys on the piano, and so in a sense, you kind of wonder, well is the mode fundamentally different? Why would it be different? Why would it sound different? And I think you kinda cut to it there. It’s about how those notes are used, so in the same way a melody using just the white notes of the piano could be written to have a sinister feel to it, if we use a collection of notes in a certain way that can be a mode and that can be a sinister character mode.

Anastasia: Exactly.

Christopher: So, let’s get a little bit more specific. We already talked about the major scale as our starting point, and that is one of the modes, right?

Anastasia: It is. It’s called the Ionian mode in fact, but no one really calls it that, because it’s simply the major scale, but it is one of the seven modes.

Christopher: Yeah, if you wanna sound fancy or impress your friends you can refer to all of the Ionian scales you’ve been playing lately.

Anastasia: Yeah.

Christopher: But one of them might see through your clever ruse, if they’ve studied modes. And there’s one of them that’s quick and easy if you’ve been studying major and minor scales. What’s that?

Anastasia: That’s the Aeolian mode. So, if you go on your keyboard and you play starting from your A note an octave all the way up to the next A using only white keys, like so,

you’ll hear that it sounds just like the natural minor scale, and that is the Aeolian mode, because if we think about scales as being derived from playing white key to white key starting on C, then starting on D, and so on and so forth, then the one starting and ending on A, becomes the Aeolian mode, also known as the natural minor, so in fact before you start learning modes, you already know two of them. And that should make you feel a lot better, because that means that the other ones are cake, you can just move up and down your little piano keyboard on the white keys and derive the rest of them without too much difficulty.

Christopher: Exactly. And I should make clear, you know, we’re talking about piano and piano keyboard, but the reason is just that the piano keyboard’s quite a clear visual way to look at pattern of intervals in music, and so if you’re playing saxophone for example, you might find it easier to think in terms of the intervals or in terms of the key signature, and you’ll find much more info about that in the full article on the Musical U website. So, that’s Ionian and Aeolian. We can take the first or the second note of the major scale and play the major scales starting from there. What about others? Can you give a couple of examples, Anastasia, of interesting or different modes that listeners might be interested to get to know?

Anastasia: Absolutely. Yeah. I’ll give my two favorites of the seven, and these two are quite different, so I think they’ll make a nice contrast. So, first of all, let’s talk about the Dorian mode. This one’s a cool one because it starts on D and ends on D if you’re looking at your piano again. I’m referring to the piano, because this is something that you can easily visualize. I’ll include a link in the show notes to a virtual keyboard so you can maybe try these modes out on your own.

So, looking at the keyboard, if you start on the D note and end on the D note playing an ascending scale, it sounds like this.

So, it’s different than the major scale, right? It shifted to something that kind of sounds more serious, so the Dorian mode is in fact considered a minor mode, ’cause there’s that minor third interval between the first and the third degree of the scale. So, rather than sounding happy and upbeat like the major scale, it now kinda sounds more bittersweet, a little bit sad, but still optimistic. So, actually a lot of songs written in Dorian mode kind of sing of unrequited love or lost love for good reason. So, I think this is a really cool one, because it kind of straddles the line between major and minor and you know, basically conveys a human emotion other than just happy or sad, but you know just real emotion and I think that’s really the beauty of modes and the Dorian mode illustrates that really, really well.

Christopher: Nice, and the Dorian mode is a good one too, because if you have come across the analysis of modes in terms of raising and lowering scales degrees based on the major scale, the Dorian is a nice case study, because as Anastasia said there, it’s about a minor third interval rather than a major third. That’s what gives it it’s minory feel, but it also has a raised sixth, so that makes it relatively bright and happy compared to it’s natural minor scale. And so just two simple kind of music theory explanations of why the Dorian ends up with this kind of bittersweet feeling to it.

Anastasia: Uh-huh. (affirmative)

Christopher: Cool, so that’s the Dorian mode. And that’s a popular one to improvise with particularly on guitar and you can play around with that if you click through to the article and the web synthesizer Anastasia mentioned there. That’s a fun one to play around with. Give us another. You said you had two favorites. What’s the other?

Anastasia: Yeah, so that’s the Dorian mode. That’s a really great one. It appears a lot, it’s in Jazz and Blues and Pop music. It’s kind of everywhere. So, it’s nice popular one and it conveys a specific mood that I think we can all relate to, which I think is part of its popularity. The other one I’m gonna talk about is way, way, way less popular. In fact, this is maybe like the weird boogeyman of the modal family. This one’s called the Locrian mode. So, if you start on your B note on the piano and play an ascending scale only on the white keys and stopping on the next B, it sounds like this.

So, some words I would use to describe this personally are creepy, unsettling, and just plain odd. Something seems wrong. Something is not resolving, and it just, it doesn’t seem like it’s even a scale. It seems like an odd, scary collection of notes. This scale’s interesting because there’s no perfect fifth, which is kind of like the interval that makes things sound warm, stable, and happy. So, this particular mode is perfect if you’re looking to write horror soundtrack or if you’re a heavy metal guitarist looking to write a really punishing solo.
So, if we want to do a little bit of an improv with the Locrian mode, it’ll sound like this.

So, yeah it’s unsettling. It’s unpleasant. It’s scary and it keeps you on edge, but if that’s the mood you’re going for, it’s really great and I think that’s what I like about it. It definitely adds an element of interest to whatever music it gets used in, and it’s not used in very much music. So, it is rare to hear it, but when you do, I think it really stands out and makes an impact.

Christopher: Very cool and yeah, if you’re a songwriter, feeling like all of the notes of the C major scale have been used to death, maybe a Locrian mode is a new angle on it that could lead to some distinctive tracks. You found a really interesting Bjork one for the article.

Anastasia: I did, yeah. Bjork has a Pop song called “Army of Me”, and we know that Bjork likes writing weird stuff, but she was perhaps one of the only people maybe even the first person to really write Pop song in Locrian mode, and the song “Army of Me” actually charted, so people did like it, but when I listened to it, I’m like, oh, this is unsettling. I’m amazed that people liked it as much as they did, but I guess that’s the magic of Bjork.

Christopher: Very cool. So, if someone’s listening and thinking, “Oh, these modes things sound interesting. Maybe I’ll go and play around.” Do you have any tips for getting started with that beyond just sitting down and plunking through the scale top to bottom or bottom to top?

Anastasia: Absolutely, yeah. Although it definitely helps to play the scales ascending and descending and then get faster so you can kind of sauce out the tone of it. There’s a really great exercise that Andrew, also here at Musical U, came up with, and it’s called the Crazy, Easy Modal Trick. I’ll include a link to that in the show notes. To summarize the exercise briefly, sit down at a piano or grab an instrument. Piano obviously works very well for the reasons Christopher discussed, everything’s kind of laid out for you. Guitar works well as well, and obviously go to the virtual piano if you don’t have access to a piano at home.

So with your left hand, you wanna hold down just one not sharp, not flat note, it’s gonna be a white key on the piano. Hold it down so that it’s a sustained sound. You can use the middle pedal on your piano if you have one to do this. For example if you’re trying to do this in Dorian mode, which is a good place to start, it’ll sound nice and pleasant. Hold down the D with your left hand. Now with your right hand, you want to improvise over top of the drone that you’re playing with your left hand, but again using only the white keys, because then you’re playing modal.

So, what’s happening here is basically your left hand is kind of establishing the tonic and the note that you’re holding down, the note that kind of is sustained is kind of where your tonic lies. It’s the gravity of your improvisation. Meanwhile all the notes that you play with your right hand, your brain is understanding in relation to that drone played with your left hand. So, if you want to modal improvise and experiment with different modes, all you really need to do is play different white keys with your left hand. Change the drone note and continue just improvising with your right hand over top with white keys and see how the sound changes. See how the mood changes from perhaps calm and floaty to darker and sinister to upbeat and energetic, something reminiscent of flamenco music. It’s really cool. It’s a really simple exercise, but you can achieve a lot and learn so much even if you just sit down at the piano for 20 minutes and try this out. It’s great.

Christopher: Fantastic. That’s a great exercise to try out, and it just comes back again to this point that modes are clearly defined and in another sense, kinda fuzzy. I think what’s great about this exercise is it sidesteps the question of how do we know what the tonic is, and yeah I think that’s probably a conversation for a whole other podcast topic. The next episode is finding the tonic by ear, but you know, obviously when the mode only differs from the major scales based on what we perceive as the tonic, that could be a question of well you know if I’m wondering around these keys how does someone know if it’s C major or Aeolian or whatever the case may be.
This exercise is great, because you’re just kinda hammering away that tonic note. You’re leaving the listener in no doubt as to what is your intended tonic and that gives your mode a very clear definition, so it’s a great way to kind of force the ear to perceive it as the mode it is rather than leaving this ambiguity that can make it harder to really get your ear into the mood and the character of the mode.

Anastasia: Definitely and that definition is really, really important because again, you could argue that you know, all seven modes use the same white keys, so what is the difference? Well the difference in the most basic sense is which notes are emphasized and how do they related to the other notes. So, the left hand drone, right hand improv exercise is the perfect way to understand that better.

Christopher: Yeah, and this is why you’ll find endless guitar forum debates and flame wars online arguing over Malmsteen and Stevie Ray Vaughan and Steve Vai and what mode they’ve written this solo in.

Anastasia: Yes.

Christopher: The answer is often, you know, it depends on how you listen to it.

Anastasia: Definitely, your ear kind of plays tricks on itself after a while.

Christopher: For sure. So, I think we’ve kind of cut to the heart of it and hopefully given everyone a taste of why modes are interesting and how simple, but how interesting they can be.

And I think all that remains is to remind you that if you want much more info on this, do check out the full article. You’ll find a link in the show notes and kudos to Anastasia for putting that together. I think it’s a really great all in one guide. We also have I think in depth ones on the Dorian and the Lydian mode, which will link up to in the show notes. So, a big thank you Anastasia for joining me today. This was a lot of fun, and yeah, everyone listening go out there and try the Crazy, Easy Weird Modal Improv Trick and drone away with different notes and see what you can come up with.

Anastasia: Yeah, have fun!

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Getting Under the Hood, with Leila Viss

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On the show today we’re joined by Leila Viss, author of the 88PianoKeys.me blog and the book “The iPad Piano Studio”. https://www.musical-u.com/learn/getting-under-the-hood-with-leila-viss/

In her own piano studio Leila specialises in helping students be more creative on keyboard and together with Bradley Sowash at 88 Creative Keys she runs workshops and provides online training to help other teachers to empower their students creatively.

As you’ll hear in this episode, Leila knows from personal experience what it’s like to not feel creative as a musician, and to learn it step-by-step in a practical way and it was fascinating to hear how she did this and how she now helps others to do the same.

In this conversation Leila shares:

– Three pivotal experiences that opened up a route for her to become more creative

– Why it might be okay to steal from musicians you admire – and what it means to “steal like an artist”

– One simple exercise she uses with her students to help them start being creative on the keyboard

We find Leila really inspiring in how she approaches playing and teaching music, and we think you’re going to enjoy hearing the specific ways as well as the overall mindset that have enabled her and her students to transform from on-page sheet music readers into free and creative musicians.

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Leila Viss’s website – https://www.leilaviss.com/

88 Piano Keys – https://88pianokeys.me/

How a classically trained pianist learned to improvise – https://88pianokeys.me/musings/how-a-classically-trained-pianist-learned-to-improvise/

Steal Like An Artist, by Austin Kleon – https://www.amazon.ca/Steal-Like-Artist-Things-Creative/dp/0761169253

The Practice Revolution, by Philip Johnston – https://www.amazon.ca/Practice-Revolution-Philip-Johnston/dp/095819050X

Tin Pan Rhythm app – http://www.tin-pan.com/

About the I, IV, V, and vi Chords – https://www.musical-u.com/learn/about-the-i-iv-v-and-vi-chords/

About Scales and Their Flavours – https://www.musical-u.com/learn/about-scales-and-their-flavors/

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Getting Under the Hood, with Leila Viss

Singing Basslines to Improve Musicianship

Audiation is the foundation of musical understanding. It describes the ability to hear – and understand! – music, even when music is not being played out loud. If you’ve ever gotten a song stuck in your head, congratulations – you know how to audiate!

The trick is to hone this skill beyond just hearing your favourite song in your head, so you can use it to better understand the music you hear and play.

In this article, I’m going to introduce you to the technique of singing basslines, a method that will lend you a better understanding of harmony while improving your sight singing, sight reading, and audiation skills – regardless of which instrument you play.

Harmonic Audiation

We can audiate rhythmically, melodically, and harmonically.

Most musicians perform melody with a rhythm together in order to make their music.

However, if they are not aware of the underlying harmony – or, “the changes” – they are missing what famed composer Leonard Bernstein called “one third of music”.

If you were to hear the melody of a simple children’s song, would you know what chords to use to accompany the song on a piano or a guitar?

As audiators, we can train our musical brain to “hear the changes” by singing basslines.

Singing basslines is a technique from the pedagogy of Music Learning Theory, developed by Dr. Edwin E. Gordon. Music Learning Theory, or, MLT, attempts to explain how one learns music. One important aspect of learning music is to be able to audiate harmonically – if you’re not hearing harmonic changes when you’re listening to music, you’re not fully audiating.

An excellent place to start with harmonic audiation is with basslines that lie beneath the melodies you know and love.

Why Sing Basslines?

The bassline usually contains the important notes that define the harmony. If you can sing a bassline, and you can identify the function of the note you are singing, you are well on your way to being able to audiate harmonically.

Singing, meanwhile, is a direct connection to your audiation. It is the connection between your musical thoughts and your external music production. When we sing, the sound immediately goes back into our ears, and we check for accuracy – it is a very important loop in the music education process.

Singing basslines, rather than just playing them, is the perfect way to relate them to melody and to internalize harmony. Generally, if you can sing it, you can play it on your instrument – which makes it a great place to start.

Hearing one thing while singing another is challenging for musicians to do at first. However, a good learning guideline: if it’s challenging to one’s musicianship, then it’s worth working on!

Start with I and V

Even though you may be an advanced technical musician, let’s start very simply with the tonic and dominant – that is, the I and V chords – in major and minor. We will use melodies from familiar folk tunes that only use I and V chords as the basis of their harmonic structure. Thankfully, as we’re about to see, there are plenty.

Tonic and Dominant harmonic functions (also known as I and V, respectively) are the foundations of harmony in Western music. They provide context for the melody.

We can use moveable-do solfege to assist us in identifying tonic and dominant, grounding our audiation. This means “do” to represent the tonic, and “so” for the dominant.

Major Tonality

In major tonality, a tonic chord (I) is any combination of “do”, “mi”, and “so”. You can hear these all at once, as in when you strum a chord on the guitar, or you can hear them individually in an arpeggio.

A dominant chord (V) is any combination of “so”, “fa”, “re”, and “ti”.

Music Learning Theory teachers teach their students tonic and dominant patterns, which are varying arpeggiated combinations of tonic and dominant chords, and for good reason: patterns are the words of music. By learning tonal patterns, you are learning a vocabulary of musical words that you can use in a myriad of ways. You can improvise with those words; you can read them; you can write them.

Here are tonic and dominant patterns in major tonality. Try singing these patterns. To hear these tonic and dominant patterns, you can watch these videos.

Tonic and dominant in major tonality

Minor Tonality

In minor tonality, a tonic chord (i) is any combination of “la”, “do”, and “mi”. A dominant chord (V) is any combination of “mi”, “re”, “ti”, and “si”.

Here are tonic and dominant patterns in minor tonality. Try singing these patterns:

Tonic and dominant in minor tonality

Connecting I and V

Once we can successfully audiate tonic and dominant chords, it is a good idea to find the pathways between the two harmonic functions. Again, we can use solfege to assist us.

These two videos show the various ways that we can connect tonic and dominant chords in major and minor:

Singing Basslines Video Series

Once we have a firm grasp of tonic and dominant and how they function, we can sing the basslines of each chord to drastically improve our musicianship.

To give my students practice singing basslines outside of my classroom, I have created some YouTube videos with practice exercises. These YouTube videos follow these steps:

  1. Listen to the melody of a familiar tune. This first video uses the folk chestnut, “Skip To My Lou.”
  2. Listen again, and hum along with the tune. Ask yourself if you hear the harmonic changes that accompany the tune. Do you hear where the I and V should go? If not, then this video series is definitely for you!
  3. Hum along again. This time, I will add the bassline. Tune your ears to both parts. When the bassline changes notes, this indicates a harmonic change.
  4. After you are comfortable with that, “bum” along with the bassline in whatever octave feels comfortable. You will be hearing two parts simultaneously – the melody and the bassline.
  5. Next, add a verbal association. This gives your brain a label for the sound. I use the words “one” and “five” on the pitches “do” (tonic) and “so” (dominant).
  6. Finally, alternate between singing the melody while listening to the bassline, and singing the bassline while listening to the melody. Do each one three times. Begin by singing the melody.

Follow the same steps for the rest of the tunes in this playlist.

If you play the piano or the guitar, you may want to try playing the melody on your instrument while singing the bassline. Then switch, and try playing the bassline while singing the melody.

Here is the musical notation for several more songs in Major and Minor with only I and V harmony.

Skip to my lou bassline

 

 

Down by the station bassline

 

Considerations

When doing these exercises, there are several factors you should be thinking about, related to the song of choice and your singing voice.

Range

Bassist playingTypically, the bassline falls into the range of an adult male singer. However, displacing the pitch by one octave will not decrease the effectiveness of this exercise. You will still be tuning into the harmonic changes in a very powerful way.

Is This Really a Bassline?

While playing through some of the exercises above, you may be wondering: are these even basslines? Technically, yes and no. It could be a bassline, but a very simple one. Most basslines contain notes other than the root, somewhat resembling melodies themselves. This exercise, however, is intended to focus your attention on the harmonic changes. After we learn the foundational notes in the bass that outline the harmonic changes, the other notes will be much easier.

Moving Forward with Harmony

Once you have mastered humming or singing the bassline to songs with a I and V harmonic structure, it’s time to challenge yourself further.

How? Try adding in more harmonies. There are plenty of songs that have I, IV and V as the basis of their harmonic structure – the 12-bar blues are a fantastic example for beginners, with a predictable and easily-audible progression.

Understanding harmony is part of a bigger musical picture – harmonic changes are the backbone of great songs, and with an understanding of harmony under your belt, you’ll be able to analyze chord changes in songs to see why they pack such a punch, and even use the principles of harmony to write your own music with movement, emotion, tension, and depth.

Harmony is a massively important part of music, and there are many ways to attune your ear to hearing it. The next time you’re listening to music, tune your ear into the chord movements and the feelings that they lend to songs – it’s like getting a behind-the-scenes peek into your favourite music.

Andy Mullen is a teacher, folk musician, multi-instrumentalist, and recovering songwriter, presently working as a middle school teacher and curriculum coach in Burlington, Massachusetts. With certification from the Gordon Institute of Music Learning (GIML) in Elementary General and Early Childhood Music, and Masters degrees in Music Education and School Administration, he is now setting his sights on Doctoral scholarships.

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Inside the Jazz Mind, with Marshall McDonald of the Count Basie Orchestra

Today we have the distinct pleasure to talk with someone who we think it’s fair to say is one of the top jazz musicians in the world today and who has played with and learned from some of the true masters: Marshall McDonald, who has been playing for 20 years with the legendary Count Basie Orchestra, and currently plays lead alto sax in that band. He’s also performed in the Duke Ellington Orchestra and with Lionel Hampton and Paquito D’Rivera.

We’ll admit that we were a bit nervous going into this interview. Marshall has had an amazingly impressive career, and although we’re jazz fans we’re not jazz musicians ourselves – and we know that jazz cats often have an encyclopedic knowledge of jazz records, jazz history and the jazz musicians behind it all. And Marshall’s certainly no exception! But fortunately he is also the most kind and humble guy and it was an absolute pleasure to chat with him – and he certainly didn’t hold back on the amazing stories and insights on teaching and learning jazz – and music in general.

One might assume that a world-leading alto sax player would talk mostly about the specifics of jazz and sax – but as you’ll hear, Marshall’s got a breadth of wisdom and insight that cuts right across music itself. There is a ton in here for any musician to learn from.

In this conversation we talk about:

  • Talent, and how he and the amazing musicians he’s worked with and learned from think about talent
  • We ask him about learning to improvise, and the balance of preparation versus spontaneity to improvise in a way that moves the listener
  • And he helps Christopher shrug off a grudge he’s been harbouring for 20 years and realise some advice that he got back then was actually pretty solid!

Marshall’s a natural story-teller, so this is a really fantastic interview – and we take no credit for that! He’s also a skillful educator, offering private lessons online and giving masterclasses, so he really knows how to explain what he does. Between the stories and the insights, we know you’re going to love this one.

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Christopher: Welcome to the show, Marshall. Thank you for joining us today.

Marshall: I’m glad to be here. How you doing?

Christopher: Doing well, thank you. You are at the top of your game as one of the world’s leading jazz musicians. And I would love to understand how that came to be. Where did you get started in music? Was it jazz to begin with, did you start at an early age, what’s the backstory for Marshall McDonald?

Marshall: No, it was classical studies. My father was an oral surgeon. I was born in 1959. All of the children took lessons. My brother was already a child prodigy on trumpet, quite advanced. He’s eight years my elder. And what’s interesting is my mother had him babysit me in my crib, and I was told later that he used to practice while I was sleeping.

I told my mother as I got older I started singing two things. I started singing the Haydn Trumpet Concerto and the Vivaldi Trumpet Concerto. They still sit in my mind. I think somewhere along the line, hearing my brother who was quite advanced, hearing my brother practice somehow instilled something in me about the whole concept of music and practice.

Christopher: Wonderful. That’s quite a childhood experience. I think not many people get serenaded by trumpet in their crib, particularly when they’re trying to sleep. It clearly didn’t do you any harm. So when you got to the age of learning music yourself, were you following in your brother’s footsteps on trumpet? Or what did music learning look like for you?

Marshall: Well, I started on clarinet. And of course, my father got me some lessons down at Carnegie-Mellon University where my brother was studying. And every Saturday he put us in the car and took us down there. My first teacher was the principal clarinetist of the Pittsburgh Symphony. My father, being a professional in the medical world, he actually played piano himself, he loved classical music. So he would practice with us, you know, on the piano, and my mother also played piano. We all had to take piano lessons and that kind of thing, and that’s how I started out.

Christopher: And was it enjoyable for you from day one? Did you take to it like a duck to water?

Marshall: I think I did. The good thing is, my parents didn’t put too much pressure on it. I was supposed to practice 30 minutes a day, according to the teacher. I ended up liking it, so I did practice. By the time I was in eighth grade, or whatever that year or however old you are, I was playing the Mozart Clarinet Concerto.
I did stop playing the piano, which I wish I’d kept up. And I think my mother was tired by then, but being on the third kid, you know, I was like, “Mom, I don’t want to play the piano.” She’s like, okay, okay. So my brother kept on playing the piano. And as he got older, he actually played piano, bass, guitar, and trumpet, so he was quite accomplished in that field.

Christopher: Wonderful. And so you were playing clarinet through high school, presumably. And you went on to study music at college, is that right?

Marshall: Kind of. What happened was, in eighth grade, i found an eight track cassette. I bet none of your listeners even know what that is. But it’s a gigantic looking tape we used to put in a gigantic machine and listen to music. I found a cassette tape in my father’s collection of Louis Armstrong that was a Hello Dolly record.
See, up until that point, he basically just played opera and classical music all around the house all of the time. And as you can imagine, it’s a very educated family. My mother had a master’s degree, so going to the library and doing your studies, honestly, it was different in the 60s and 70s. We had three TV channels. Parents kind of controlled your life. You remember those days?

So I heard this tape and I heard Hello Dolly. And I just fell in love with it. Basically, I just loved the jazz on it. And there was a clarinet player on the recording. It might have been Barney Bigard that I found out later. But it didn’t matter. I thought it was the greatest thing.

Now what I did know was my mother grew up in Pittsburgh, and went to a famous school, Westinghouse High School, with Earl Garner and Grover Mitchell and Earl Fatha Hines and Mary Lou Williams, and all of these great black musicians had gone. See, in that time, the towns were segregated so there were two areas where black people lived. And one of the schools had a great musical teacher. And he was producing large number of really great musicians, so Pittsburgh has a tremendous history in jazz.

She told me later that she loved jazz as a child and went to see jazz players. She actually used to listen to Earl Garner practice. I’m just going to jump into practice because a lot of people said that Earl Garner didn’t read music. They possibly learned later that maybe he had some kind of dyslexia or something. They’re not sure why he couldn’t read music. So a lot of people assume if you can’t read music, it doesn’t make you an accomplished musician. And that’s just not true, first of all.

What she did say that all she remembers was Earl Garner practicing all of the time in the cafeteria on the piano. And I think that’s the key. You know, just practice, no matter what your gift is.

Christopher: Wonderful. Well that’s definitely something I’d like to come back to in a little bit. The gift and practice. But I don’t want to leave the story there. You were enraptured with Louis Armstrong and that Hello Dolly record or eight track. What impact did that have on you? Did you immediately abandon the classical world and run off into jazz?

Marshall: No, of course not. Once you study music, you always study music. Most jazz musicians are playing etudes and Close A studies. Charlie Parker played out of the Closed A book and actually had several of them memorized. Every musician studies both worlds. It’s all music, whether it’s country music, blues, or blue grass. There’s only 12 notes on the European scale.

Basically what happened, much to my father’s chagrin, I told him I wanted a saxophone, because when I got to high school, I wanted to join the jazz band. He wasn’t too happy about that, but because he loved me, he bought me a saxophone so I could learn it. And he teased me about it. But I started practicing and pretty much got it together through my clarinet teacher. And I did join, I actually joined the stage band in 10th grade. Whatever you are, 13, I think at that time?

Christopher: Wonderful. It’s great that your dad was happy to support you in that way. I’m not going to try to draw comparisons between your musical career and my own, but I wanted to learn saxophone myself in high school and I was told I could not learn saxophone until I first mastered the clarinet.

And so I had four years of clarinet, being told I had to get the clarinet embouchure just right before I was allowed a saxophone and then finally, that day came and I was able to join the wind band and play sax. And life was much better.

Marshall: That’s a good story. You reminded me of when I first started out as a child wanting to play. I picked the oboe. And a very wise teacher said the exact same thing. He said, “Your son should start on clarinet. If he plays clarinet, he can move to any of the woodwind instruments after that.” It was a great advantage to me because many saxophone players have so much trouble going back to the clarinet.

There was a time, back when the big bands were started, everyone started on clarinet. The clarinet is the home instrument. They are correct. Being home, that is, if you can learn to play clarinet and master the clarinet, you can move to many of the woodwinds from there. But moving from the flute or saxophone to the clarinet is extremely difficult.

Christopher: Interesting. I’ve been harboring a grudge for 20 years and I’m going to have to finally let it go. Clearly the advice that was given was actually valid. They weren’t just trying to fill spots in the orchestra that had an empty clarinet seat.

Marshall: You know Artie Shaw, the great, great clarinetist, one of the greatest ever?

Christopher: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Marshall: And a great classical player. He was also a great lead alto saxophone player.

Christopher: Interesting. Well, it certainly jumped out at me that you play all saxophones and woodwind instruments, you know, for a musician as accomplished as you are. You know, for someone to play lead alto in the Count Basie Orchestra, I don’t think people would expect that you had also reached such a high level on other instruments. Maybe we can just touch on why that is possible for you.

Marshall: That basically came out of my professor at University of Pittsburgh. My father taught at the University of Pittsburgh. Believe it or not, you asked me did I go to college for music? No, I actually started out for two years studying biology and chemistry to become a doctor like my sister. That’s how I started out.

When the band director found out how much I really liked music, he actually made a special arrangement for me. Mark Kirk was a student of Phil Woods who lived in the Poconos. I was going to Lafayette College which is very close to the Poconos where Phil Woods was living. Well, he had a prize student up there. His name was Mark Kirk who I met at one of these jazz concerts.

My band director at Lafayette arranged for me to get a van, drive into the mountains, and take a few lessons with Mark Kirk. The things that he taught me in those few lessons was, believe me, I did not understand very well. And he was a little frustrated with me because he was so advanced. But the things he taught me when I finally got them together years later would change my whole playing concept and I still teach them today.

Christopher: Amazing. Could you give an example or two of what he taught you in those lessons that you’ve come back to all these years later?

Marshall: I sure could because Phil Woods is, or was, one of the best jazz saxophone teachers out there. And so many of his students that you know are playing. Vincent Herring and so many others are all over the place. John Gordon, Richie Cole.

The first that he did is I brought out these fake real books. You know, with the fake charts and stuff? And I had all this music and all this stuff. And Mark took it and he threw it on the ground and he said, “Never come back to my house with again with those, okay?” That was the first thing he said.

He said to play jazz, you have to listen to jazz, you have to learn to hear jazz, and you have to learn your scales and your chords. That was the first lesson. He wrote out a few woods exercise, which I still have and still pass on to students, which involved a chord change. I didn’t know that at the time. It was a minor scale, a dominant scale, with a diminished scale over top of it, ana a major scale. Pretty much going up the ninth. Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da.

That was the pattern and it continued through to diminish and go down to the major. That was my first lesson. Now it took years for me, because he said you have to learn this in all 12 keys. You know, I’m a biology major and this is one of the first jazz lessons I really had. So when I came back and I hadn’t quite figured it out, he was a little frustrated.

You know, the way he taught and Phil taught is he would sit at the piano and play chords, you know, which is the way it was when I started with George Coleman, he say at the piano and played chords. So it took a while to get that together.

Now you asked me about the saxophones. It was Dr. Nathan Davis. When I came back to Pittsburgh and transferred to the University of Pittsburgh, I started as a music major. Dr. Nathan Davis was one of the first who started the jazz program in the United States at the University of Pittsburgh. He, and, see, you get older and you can’t remember nothing, right? David Baker. David Baker and Dr. Davis were some of the two first who started a jazz program.

The schools at that time didn’t really accept the jazz degree, though. You know, it wasn’t really acceptable, so it had to be something else, or ethnomusicology or something like that. One day Dr. Davis, Nathan said to me, he said, “You’re really focused on be-bop and the alto saxophone.” But he said, “You know, music is very difficult to make money in. You have to learn to do a lot of different things.” For instance, this is a quote, “You can’t be a janitor and walk in here and say, ‘oh, I’m sorry. I don’t clean tile floors.’” That’s exactly what he said.

And after he said that, I think he handed me a soprano saxophone from the rental office and said please go home and start this. And so you see where I’m going. Later on, he gave me a tenor saxophone and said, “I need you to take this home and learn how to play this.” Then he had me playing baritone saxophone. So that’s really how it happened. So what I learned was that each saxophone is a separate voice, though. You can’t play the tenor like you play alto. You can’t use the same airstream, you can’t use the same concept, or you’re going to sound like an alto player playing tenor.

Christopher: Interesting. And it sounds like some really amazing people were taking an interest in you at this phase. What do you think that they saw in you that they were willing to kind of invest in you in this way?

Marshall: I have no idea. I was a little crazy then. I was young. But I guess the one thing they saw was that I was willing to work hard. The band went to Trinidad and Tobago. And we also had jazz seminars with James Moody and Freddie Hubbard and Grover Mitchell, and everyone would come in Pittsburgh. There were also some very great local musicians, Eric Closs. There was a group of young musicians, Ned Gould, Frank Molla, Andy Fite, Dave Budway, Leon Lee Dorsey. Many of them moved up to New York, and they were more advanced than me.
Ned Gould went to play with the Harry Connick orchestra. Dave Budway played with people in New York. Leon Lee Dorsey has a doctorate, played with Art Blakey and Lionel Hampton. So there was a heavy scene. You know, Eric Closs was there. He was a staple. He was a child prodigy. So it was something going on in Pittsburgh.

So I didn’t just learn from Dr. Davis, I learned from these guys. For instance, Frank Molla was a tremendously talented and advanced trombone player. The way he learned to play was he had transcribed, I’m not even sure how, he knew how many. When I say transcribed, he learned solos off of records, and they were records, everyone. They were records. You know, off of records, memorized them, and he knew at least 400 or more of them. And so when he would come over to my house, well not a house, to my little room in those days, if you put on a Miles Davis record or J.J Dawson, he could play along with the solo without reading any music.

So one day I said to him, Frank, how can I learn how to play jazz? And he said to me, Pittsburghers talk like this, you know, they talk through their nose. He said, “You know, Marshall, you know, you got technique. You got a good sound. You just need to listen to the big birdy.” I said, the big birdy? Who’s that? He said, “Charlie Parker. All you need to do is just transcribe a bunch of Charlie Parker solos.”

What he told me was, and he thought playing along with Jamey Aebersold records and reading solos, and learning to read chords in that way didn’t teach you to play jazz. And then as I got with a lot of the heavier musicians in town, every one of them said the same thing. You have to learn to hear to play any music, basically.

Christopher: Interesting. So I want to circle back in a little bit and talk more about transcribing and that process of learning jazz. But let’s continue with the story for a little bit. So you were immersed in this amazing Pittsburgh scene. And at this point, you had switched to ethnomusicology to cover your jazz program?”

Marshall: No. I made a self-designed major. You know, they were just coming up with the jazz major. And I picked courses and honestly, I was, there was a lot of partying going on in those days. Basically, maybe what they saw in me that I was willing to practice a lot. So when I say we went to Trinidad and Tobago, he had given me a soprano and I was playing lead alto on saxophone. I basically was an alto saxophone player at the time. I got a flute in high school to learn how to play flute because I knew they had those in the parts.

I used to sit on the bus. They had some kind of bus that would take us places. So everyone was at this party, including Nathan Davis, which is a funny story. He came running out of the party because we were in Trinidad, apparently some lizard had run up his pants, right? And he’s running around, help me, help me! But what I was doing was, I actually was on the bus for hours, practicing the soprano saxophone.

And people were reminding me, they said, you didn’t go to class and stuff, but you sat in the practice room downstairs and you used to practice six or eight hours a day.

I’m going to jump in with something I know you’re going to ask. You want to talk, people were always curious about talent. How do I learn music? What’s the process? How do I enjoy music? It’s really simple. First of all, you have to remember why you enjoy music in the first place. That’s step one. Don’t look at it as work. What song do you like? What song moves your heart? Have you ever listened to a song or listened to the words and it makes you cry?

Christopher: For sure.

Marshall: So any person in the world can play music. I’m not saying that any person in the world can be Michael Brecker because that’s just not true. That’s like saying anyone can be Mozart. No. There’s only, those people are like alien beings. They’re like from another planet. There’s only going to be one Mozart, one Beethoven, one Michael Brecker, one John Coltrane, one Dizzy Gillespie, one Charlie Parker. Those are surely the masters that show us the way.

But that doesn’t mean we all can’t get enjoyment out of music, whatever level we’re on. So the first thing is just you remember the joy of the music. Now how did I start to learn jazz? I had classical teachers, so they basically couldn’t tell me anything of what to do. They didn’t know, but I was in the jazz band.

A kid came up in 10th grade, and he had actually had a jazz teacher on saxophone, so he knew about chords and stuff. And he sounded pretty good. And I’ll be honest, I was envious. You know, I was two years older and I was a little bummed out. I never was taught that stuff. My classes as a clarinet player were, well, you know.

I had a solo my senior year, and this kid was in 10th grade. And we’re still friends on Facebook, by the way. And he was good. So this is what I did, and this is what I think everyone should remember. I recorded the band where my solo was supposed to be. I took the tape home, and night after night I sat there and I sung what I thought that I might play along with the recording, right? So whatever it was I was singing, I slowly wrote that down on a piece of paper.

And this went on night after night. You know, I would listen to the recording and maybe you know, do, do, do, do, do. I would just sing. I had no idea what I was singing at all. You know, the technical scale of it, I just knew it was the key of G. After that, I was still a little confused. So I wrote out this whole solo. Then I memorized my solo, what I had sung, right?

And so we’re down at Duquesne University and my father did come. Remember the man, much to his chagrin who one day had told me, “Uh, son, you know the saxophone sounds like a tugboat. Do you really have to play that?” I’m sure you know about that. But my dad came down to this thing, and I won the award for the best soloist of the band.

So how should you learn jazz or any music? Whether it’s classical, jazz, rock and roll? First of all, don’t isolate and say it’s jazz and there’s a special way to play it. It’s music. The classical masters could all improvise. Mozart, Beethoven. Improvising is actually just spontaneously composing. That’s all it is. Mozart could improvise because he had a mastery of harmonic progressions, chords, where they should go, all of the scales, all of the patterns that he could possibly play.

There’s a famous story of Mozart sitting down and what they call variations on Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star. Maybe while he was drinking. And no one knows if the story is true is not. But the point is, and I know this from studying classical music, that the masters could improvise. And that’s simply making up spontaneous composition. It’s the same as composing.

So when you improvise jazz, you’re not really making things up or in the moment or jamming, it’s none of that. It’s basically studying scales, chords, patterns, devices, understanding the harmony, writing it down, completing absorbing it into your mind just like Mozart.

As you know, Mozart didn’t write at a piano. He sat with a paper and wrote out a complete symphony from his mind. That’s what I’m talking about. A great jazz player has absorbed so much of the music, that they can spontaneously compose a solo full of the devices and the things they’ve learned.

Now how does that relate to a young person or a young adult who just wants to enjoy some music? I think they should think like guitar players. You know how guitar players get a rock record and learn a riff just off the record or learn the song? Honestly, I believe in the Suzuki method for piano. Learning to hear by ear first and not reading music first.

When our mother spoke to us, she didn’t write down something and had us read us. We just spoke back what we heard. And so what happens in the lessons when I was young, because my ear was good, my piano teacher was frustrated because I wasn’t reading the music. I don’t remember who it was. The person would demonstrate the song and many times I could just play it back by ear and then she or he figured that out and got angry with me. And told my mother, “He’s not reading the music.”

And my brother was even much better at it than me. I know I’m talking a lot and you probably got to edit this out.

Christopher: No. I wouldn’t edit a word. There was so much packed in there that I would love to talk at length about. One thing to pick up on is just I love that you were using your voice. Just instinctively, you decided to sing your solo before trying to write it down because it’s something we really harp on at Musical U.

You know, a lot of instrument players are reluctant singers, but we really try and get across to them that you know, if you can imagine in your mind and then use your voice to explore it or express it, that’s such a powerful tool for you to not have to worry about the fingers on the instrument when you’re in that creative moment. And particularly for something like improvising where you want to get to that pure, kind of instinct for expression.

But I also love that you described there that process of kind of stockpiling patterns or vocabulary or systems like chords and scales to kind of equip yourself for that spontaneous composing. And that’s really, really interesting to hear about for a top-level improvisor and jazz musician like yourself. It’s so fascinating to hear how you think about this stuff.

Marshall: Honestly, I think all musicians think the same way. I’ve been blessed to, I started off with the Lionel Hampton Orchestra. So I got to sit with some great musicians there. And I’ve been fortunate to meet almost everyone who was alive, either through Lionel Hampton or Basie honestly. Clark Terry, Art Farmer, George Benson, Frank Foster, Frank West, Danny Turner, James Moody. I played with Paquito D’Rivera.

My point is this. After talking to all of these great musicians, none of them said that there’s no magic to this whatsoever. It’s all a craft. And there was a bass player in Pittsburgh who told me that one day. His nickname was Joe Blow. I forgot what his name was, but that’s what he called himself. And so I was trying to learn be-bop. All those people I mentioned were much more advanced than me, you know.

And one day he said to me, “Marshall, it’s a craft. This is not magic. It’s a craft. You’re going to have to memorize chord numbers.” Like when you think of a scale, like a pianist first learns one, two, three, four, five. Five, four, three, two, one. We then have to attach those numbers to every scale, right? That’s the first step, just like a piano player. So when I was taught from the Phil Woods lesson when I practiced, and this is painful for people because it takes a long time.

You know, Michael Brecker practiced about 16 hours a day. Charlie Parker practiced 15 to 16 hours a day, every day, for a period of three years. Sonny Stitt said he practiced eight hours a day for 10 years. The classical players are just as extreme. I’ve talked to piano players who would practice 10 hours a day. You have to take a break.

So about the number system, how to improvise. When you take a scale, you have to assign a number to the scale. And this is the way I teach on Skype or any person. And this is the same thing Berklee does too, now. It’s a number system. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. So that is, if I’m talking to you, I have to be able to know a note. For instance, if I say to you, what’s the fourth note of E-flat major?

Christopher: A flat?

Marshall: Okay. That was too late because the chord-

Christopher: The moment’s gone.

Marshall: And that’s what George Coleman told me sometimes when I would hesitate. He said, “It’s too late, Marshall.” He said, “The piano player already played that E-flat, and you missed it.” So how I practiced was painfully slow. At times literally punching the music stand in frustration. This is the way I would practice. C 1, D2. I would say it out loud. E 3, F 4. That’s how I practiced. Very, very slowly.

I learned later that Barry Harris, I had figured something on my own that was right because Barry Harris used to teach the same way in New York. People would sing it like this, I am singing a major scale. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. What I was doing myself was exactly what the masters were teaching.

So it’s not magic. Say we’re the beginner student or the middle student. We want to have some fun. We’re not going to become professionals, right? We need to make this fun. So my brother taught me a lot. He said, if you want to learn to hear, play a TV theme song by ear. Play Happy Birthday by ear in different keys. Play Mary Had a Little Lamb. If you hear a rock song you like, he said don’t go buy the music. He said just learn it by ear.

How do we learn by ear? Humans sung first before playing instruments. Singing is the root of all music. Classical music, especially. I can’t tell you how many times I was sitting with my father playing piano, and he’s playing the Mozart Concerto part on piano and he’s going, “Sing, Marshall, sing.” (Singing). Right? So if you watch a master pianist, they’re breathing at the spot that they should breathe, right? They go (singing), because they’re thinking like a singer.

I know I got a lot to say. You might have to make two podcasts, man. You might have to make two hours, you know. I love David Sanborn. I love rock music. I love classical music. I love music in general. I grew up in rock music because it was the 60s and the 70s. My brother went off to Air Force, you know, that’s the pile of records before my dad threw them out.

It was Sgt Pepper’s. You know, remember the Beatles record? It was Jimi Hendrix. What’d they call the one Purple Haze was on?

Christopher: Electric Ladyland?

Marshall: Something like that. It was all those records, right? So I’m listening to these. I heard my brother listen to them. I really loved the Beatles, man. And then a sax player said, from college, “If you like saxophone, you need to listen to David Sanborn.” He had his first record in ’76. He had me buy me the 1977 record named Sanborn. I wanted to play, I tried to copy David Sanborn off of the records. I actually had the scales wrong. I didn’t know what he was playing, but I would just pick the notes off by ear.

Christopher: Amazing. And so it was very much kind of an immersion, ear-led, and very practice-heavy learning experience for you by the sounds of it. This wasn’t one of these mythological stories of the great jazz musician who just kind of dabbled on the instrument and had a gift and had amazing success with it. You were clearly putting in the work and surrounding yourself with amazing, inspiring people that you could learn from.

Marshall: I think the key was, though, was i just enjoyed, honestly, I just enjoyed listening to the records. I didn’t really play in any bands in high school. I wasn’t smart enough to figure out to learn songs off of records. All guitar players do, you know. Pretty soon they’re playing a jam. They’re playing Led Zeppelin or something. I never figured that out because honestly, I was really immersed in this classical clarinet and the reading of music. And I was trying to figure out this improvising thing.

There was a guitar player in school who was really playing be-bop, really good. I mean, I’m still friends with him. He lives in Sweden. But he is somehow figured out that you just get a bunch of records and transcribe solos. I hadn’t quite figured that out yet.

Christopher: So we have talked a little bit about the kind of preparation work and study that goes into being able to improvise in terms of learning scales and chords and teaching yourself this numbering system to understand the notes of the scales. But you made a comment in one of your blog posts I loved, which was I think a lot of our listeners could relate to, which you said, “A lot of jazz is calculated brain music. Jazz should have three things: dance, melody, and blues.” I’d love to hear you talk about that a little bit because if it’s not just preparation and careful kind of logical planning of which notes to play, where does that great improvising come from?

Marshall: Hmm. I’ll talk about the first quote. Jackie Kelso was playing lead alto when I first joined the Count Basie Orchestra. I did not really know who Jackie Kelso was, but I quickly learned that he was part of The Wrecking Crew. Do you know what The Wrecking Crew is?

Christopher: Yeah.

Marshall: That was the great recording group of Los Angeles. Hal Blaine, Carole Kaye, who were recording out of, Plas Johnson, recording like the Beach Boys. Glen Campbell. Jackie Kelso was part of that recording group. He was actually in retirement by the time Grover Mitchell brought him back from Los Angeles to play.

I think what all musicians need, and I think what anyone needs in life is always to have mentors. I’ve always searched out and found, and been lucky to find mentors. I don’t think you can get anywhere without a mentor. And you’re always learning, you know, whether you’re my age or whether you’re 12. You know, for instance, my mentor first was my brother, and then my father. And then Mr. Thompson from symphony and then Mr. Ballawatcher from Carnegie-Mellon. You need a mentor to guide you.

Like I said, there’s very few Mozarts. It was Jackie Kelso who told me one day, he said, he had this very interesting way of talking. He was very sophisticated. He’s actually on the Steely Dan record Aja in the saxophone section. Look on the record, it says Jackie Kelso. He’s on thousands of recordings.

He lived in a trailer outside of the studio, there was so much work. That’s a true story. It’s been verified. He told me that. I asked Plas Johnson later and he said, “Yep. He lived in this trailer. They would beep the beeper.” There was no cell phones, remember, and he would go in a recording session.

One day Jackie said to me, he said, “You have more than enough technique to work the rest of your life, but what you’re missing is the depth. There’s no depth in your playing.” What he told me is he played with Dizzy Gillespie when he was young, and Lionel Hampton. And he said Dizzy was the first person who first talked about that to him. He said when you’re playing, it’s go tot have dance in the music.

And my brother, I remembered later, told me the same thing about Beethoven and Mozart. He reminded much of that was played for people who were dance, that sometimes we were listening to the music in the wrong way. Sometimes, he said, if you take Beethoven and instead of tapping one and three, put it on two and four, listen to it, you’re going to hear a much different concept of what Beethoven was doing. Because even in the symphonies, honestly, there’s dance going on.

Music has always served a function. Music has rarely ever been something that people sat down and listened to. It’s always either a religious thing, a communication thing, a spiritual moment, a celebration. Music has not been like what it’s become lately where people sit at a concert. And that’s why I think so many people love rock concerts and pop concerts, because you’re participating in the party.

You know, when people start to sit in their chair and look at music, it’s never been our history of doing that. And Mozart had to write a lot of stuff for the king and queen, do you remember? But the common people weren’t listening to Mozart, right? They were listening to the local folk music. They had no interest in listening to that. I got sidetracked. You got to bring me back.

Christopher: So yeah, you’ve got to have that dance.

Marshall: The dance. The dance.

Christopher: I think that’s something that jumps out about the Basie Orchestra too, isn’t it? That it’s always that spirit of dance.

Marshall: When Jackie first told me about the dance. Just in the last five years, the great Houston Person, he’s a saxophonist, recorded about 50 records. Very, very longevity in this business. I met him years ago. So one day on the phone he said to me, “Marshall, you know, the secret to music is melody, dance, and swing to jazz music.” And he actually said the Count Basie Orchestra was always more popular than the Duke Ellington Orchestra, though the Duke Ellington Orchestra had some of the most sophisticated music in the world.

But he said what Count Basie figured out to do was always have melody, dance, and swing. And so when you went to a Count Basie concert, the people say it’s like going to a party, right? It’s like having fun. You leave feeling like that you had fun. Honestly, sometimes I think that’s missing from a lot of jazz music today, that feeling of the party and the dance and the fun.

Christopher: Interesting. So let’s talk a little bit about the Count Basie Orchestra. You’ve been an alumnus for 20 years in various sax chairs. And I’d love to know where that came into your own musical journey, and also, I guess, what’s so distinctive about that orchestra in particular? That band?

Marshall: Well, the Count Basie Orchestra is one of the most singularly most influential big bands to the way every big band plays in the world today. That’s simply a fact. What the Count Basie’s genius was coming up with this style and sound, which has pretty stamped every single big band you will hear today. It’s hard to listen to any recording that you find today and not be able to find some kind of Count Basie influence on it. That’s the most important thing.

So when I was at college, going to school and I was playing lead alto and I could read good, and I had a good sound you know, from my studies. Joe Williams was a guest artist. Nathan Davis brought in a lot of people to come into the school. And so I was playing lead alto and my buddy and I, he wanted to study arranging. So since he liked arranging, he liked listening to big bands. So we would drive around in his truck through Pittsburgh and he’d have Count Basie on all the time, you know?

So we’re listening to Count Basie and Joe Williams was a guest. We’re playing the park and Joe stops the band and says, “Oh, saxophones, you know you’re not playing that right. Play it like this guy here. This guy in the front right here,” which was the biggest compliment I felt I had ever gotten, right? So that was my first thing.

Now my brother reminded me later, but I don’t remember, my brother said, “You know, you told me one day, you said ‘I want to play in the Count Basie Orchestra.’” And he said, you know, you did it. So you should be proud of yourself.

The Count Basie Orchestra is like a living organism. We don’t play what’s on the paper. I’ve heard a lot of people play Count Basie music but it doesn’t sound like Count Basie. There’s an interpretation to the music going in the way the band plays. The one thing that Mr. Basie had members that stayed a long time in the orchestra. That’s very important.

I got to meet so many of them when I first subbed in the band in 1994. Frank Foster brought me in and there were a lot of the Count Basie original from playing with Count Basie there. Danny Turner was the one who told me, because I asked them a lot of questions about playing lead alto. I was sitting beside him one day playing second alto or something. And he was saying the style was past.

There’s two Count Basie bands, by the way. There’s the first generation one, you know, with Earle Warren playing lead alto and then the band kind of went out of business. Then the second generation, which is what most people know with Frank Foster, Frank West, Al Grey, that band. That’s most of the music people know.

So Marshall Royal was the lead alto player. And as you know, Marshall had a very unique style of the lip slurs and the glissandos, the bursting into the notes and the vibrato. What’s fascinating about Marshall is that he added all that himself. It’s not on the music. It’s his voice. So one of the great players that sat underneath him at first was Bobby Plater. And then Danny Turner was sitting beside Bobby later.

So Danny explained to me was happened was Marshall was in the band a long time, so we all learned from Marshall. Bobby learned by sitting next to Marshall. I learned by sitting next to Bobby. And then I got to sit next to Danny and I was listening to him play the way he interpreted the music. And when I took over lead alto, John Williams said to me, “You know, you’re playing lead alto. This is the most important thing that you need to know. Two things. You need to sing, and you need to have fun.”

And then Bill Hughes, the great Bill Hughes who’d been playing in the band some 54 years and led the band, he told me it’s really great that you love Marshall Royal, but what I want you to do is I need you to put your own voice on that chair, to find your own way of playing it.

Christopher: And when you talk of singing there, we’re not talking about the kind of singing we were talking about before in terms of creating your solo by singing out loud. You mean, kind of singing through the instrument? Is that right? Being lyrical with it?

Marshall: Yes, that’s correct. All, all, all musicians that sing through the instrument, they need to get back to singing through the instrument and stop thinking of how many notes they can play and how many patterns they can play. Music is about singing and touching people. Music should be listenable. Music should move someone. You should tell a story. It’s not about impressing someone with how many patterns that you’ve memorized, because anyone can do that, clearly. Everyone in the world has learned the jazz method. That’s the method I told you about. Memorizing patterns and scales, et cetera, et cetera. But how many great musicians are?

And I mentioned David Sanborn before. Michael Brecker loved David Sanborn. James Moody said he loved. I met David several times now. He’s one of my favorites because David can say more with one note than most people would say with a series and a flurry of a whole bunch of notes. And what he’s doing is he’s soulful, he’s singing. It’s melodic. But if you listen to his playing, it’s always like you would sing. (Singing). He’s always singing.

In history, the people that have lasted the longest were singing. As complicated as John Coltrane became, you could still sing even the most complicated parts of the solo. It was still beautiful. I know you said you have a lot of middle ground amateur musicians and that’s why I go back to if you want to learn a song, don’t buy the music. Pretend you’re a guitar player. If you play sax or piano or trumpet or guitar or bass, or whatever it is, nowadays get the mp3 and listen to it.

The way that we learn a song is we sing it first and then we try to play it on our instrument by picking it out one note at a time. That’s how guitar players learn how to play. And that’s why Joe Walsh and those guys sound so different. You know, and that’s why rock and roll took over, to tell you the truth. Miles Davis figured that out. If you listen to Miles Davis, first he loved rock and roll. He loved Jimi Hendrix and he loved Sly and the Family Stone.
But Miles was always singing when he played, if you listen to his playing very carefully. Miles said once he knew the words to all of those songs he was playing.

Christopher: Amazing. I think that’s given such a fascinating insight into the mind of a top-level jazz performer and improvisor. I’ve really loved hearing how you think about these things because you know, there’s so many musicians confused about what it takes to improvise or you know, the balance between theory and ear. And memorizing and preparing versus spontaneity. And I think you’ve given a really great picture of how you think about all this.

Marshall: I think for the person who’s beginning to improvise, they need to go back to the beginning of jazz or something that I can improvise. And basically in New Orleans, what people were doing was, they were taking the melody and then they were slowly changing the melody by ear. That should be the first way everyone learns how to improvise. If you have a teacher that shows you play one, two, three, five, or something like that, that’s the wrong way to go about it. Because now you’re memorizing notes.

So you should take a song like, for instance, as Wynton Marsalis has demonstrated over and over again at his clinics, you take a song like Happy Birthday, and then the second time you just change Happy Birthday a little bit. You just make stuff up. If you make a mistake, it’s okay. You’re practicing. You know, that’s the whole idea. If you can think of anything to play, just try changing a couple of notes.

You know, you might go, first time go Happy Birthday, da-da. (Singing). Now you say, I don’t really know what to do. So next time, it would go, (singing). So that’s pretty good. What else can I go? What about you go, (singing). You added one note. (Singing). So how do you find those notes? You sing it first. You have to start singing, whatever you’re doing. And you’ve got to have fun. You got to have to make this fun.

And then like an hour goes by in no time at all. And that’s how everyone should start to improvise, by ear first. Not by theory first. It’s kind of backwards.

Christopher: Love it. We recently added improv modules inside Musical U. And I think I’m going to go back and put in a big quote that says, “Marshall McDonald says sing first and have fun,” because that is exactly the right spirit to take to it. I love it.

So, Marshall, we’ve talked a bit about your playing with with the Count Basie Orchestra and I’ve been loving your two solo records, well not solo, but under your own name. Standardize and Mama Knows Everything. What else is going on in the world of Marshall McDonald? You’re clearly a very fluent educator in explaining what you do as well. Is that part of what you do these days?

Marshall: Yes. That really is my goal. I would like to settle down and teach and possibly even teach at a college or teach sax lessons. Like I said, I’ve been so lucky. I only touched upon what a few of the things people told me. I think the key for anyone, though, is to absorb what it is that people are telling you, and always be humble. You know, don’t act like I know everything and I’m not going to listen to this person, because that’s kind of silly.
So basically, I’m looking to teach. I’ve also been playing a baritone saxophone with Abdullah Ibrahim a lot lately. We’re going to Paris, to Marseilles, coming up in August. Abdullah is very interesting for me because see, in the Basie band or any big band, you don’t get a lot of time to solo. Abdullah’s using just four horns and I’m playing baritone sax, so of course, there’s a lot more solo space and a lot more freedom.

Abdullah encouraged all of us to start writing music and to start finding our own sound. I think he’s absolutely correct. The music industry’s changing a lot. Maybe you’re aware of that. What do you play? Clarinet? Saxophone?

Christopher: I play these days mostly bass. Yeah, clarinet and saxophone in my past. And these days mostly guitar.

Marshall: You get more work on bass. Everyone needs a good bass player. The industry’s changing a lot, you know, and some things not for the better. We do have a very advanced college education system and some very advanced saxophone players. I remember I heard Lee Konitz say 25, you know Lee Konitz, the great Lee Konitz? One of the greatest jazz saxophonists of all time.

He came out of the Lennie Tristano school. That was the school opposite of Charlie Parker. Lennie Tristano was a pianist in the 40s and 50s. Warren Marsh, Lee Konitz, incredible music. There’d be no Paul Desmond without Lee Konitz.

So once Lee said years ago, he said these kids have so much more technique than I ever will have. But you know, so many times, so many of us would rather go, Lee could play, he had technique, but I know what he means. We would rather go listen to Lee Konitz. I was listening to Paul Desmond play at tune live at Carnegie Hall. Maybe it’s called Eleven Four or something like that. He wrote it. It’s a time signature, it’s eleven beats over four.

It was just so marvelous and beautiful, besides being so, such a mastery of a solo. It was also wonderful to listen to. And that’s kind of been my thing lately, telling people that jazz sometimes has gotten so educated with everyone knowing every John Coltrane lick and every pentatonic scale, and wanting to impress the other musicians, that the audience, they didn’t notice, walked out of the room.

Because in Pittsburgh, the way it was, it was about being in a bar. You know, you’re looking at steel workers. They had a hard day at work. Maybe they got some trouble at home. They’re coming down there to relax and have a good time. They don’t want you educating them with the deepest John Coltrane thing you have.

What used to get people shouting in the bar was when you played a blues lick in Pittsburgh, you know, like say, you’re going along. You’re going like, wow. (Singing). And the people, wow, you know, and they’re drinking, they’re smoking. See, that’s what the, Stanley Turrentine came from Pittsburgh, right? I heard a lot, and I got to meet Stanley when he came back to Pitt to be a clinician.

And Stanley had a prolific, long career because he always played the blues, he always spoke to people. He is one of Michael Brecker’s favorite players, was Stanley Turrentine, you know? And Michael Brecker said he listened to guitar players, did you know that? His focus was on a lot of guitar players.

I did get to speak with Michael Brecker a few times. I was very fortunate. I loved his playing from the late 70s. One of the first solos someone told me to learn was a Michael Brecker solo on Don’t Let Me Be Lonely Tonight by James Taylor. You know, I found a lot of young people didn’t even know that he played the original sax solo on that song. I guess I’m old.

It’s a beautiful solo and again, because Michael’s singing during the solo. You know, Michael played with Carly Simon, James Taylor, Paul Simon, you know, on the Cameo, Cameo record. Great solos. If you listen to Michael Brecker’s solos all of the time on those pop records, he’s singing like Maceo Parker or Hank Crawford. When I mean singing, he’s playing a phrase that’s musical. He’s not playing notes that he’s memorized.

What happens when you practice a lot of jazz and you learn your patterns, Michael said he had a method in high school. He’s obviously incredibly talented. His brother could play. Michael told me his method was writing down different patterns on music because he couldn’t remember them and then he would play them in different intervals and different sequences all over the saxophone front. Four hours after school and then when he got to college, eight to 12 hours a day.

So honestly, there’s no magic at all, you know. Everyone has a different gift, I agree with that. And some people, most of us are not going to be John Coltrane or Michael Brecker, you know. So we have to accept that. But they’re like our sensei, our key teachers. The masters that came and visited a little while showed us, here’s the possibilities of what you might do. You get to grab a little bit from them.

But what I first liked about Michael Brecker was the joy I felt listening to his music. So again, I’m going to go back to that every adult student, young student, if you’re 40 years old and want to play saxophone, it’s all about the joy of listening to the music.

Christopher: I love it. Well, in the same way you were talking about looking up to those greats like Coltrane as a sensei or maybe a space alien but can inspire you, I just think it’s a phenomenal day and age we live in that I have the opportunity to speak with someone like yourself at length and hear these amazing stories and insights. But also that adult saxophone player or clarinet player who wants to study with you has that opportunity, you know?
You’re very generous with your time as an individual educator through Skype lessons and also through giving workshops. And I just think that’s an amazing opportunity where you don’t need to travel halfway around the world to study with today’s greats. You can do it in the comfort of your own home.

So I definitely encourage anyone who’s been inspired by today’s conversation to head to Marshall’s website. We’ll have a link in the show notes. But it’s marshallmcdonald.com, and I just have to say a really big thank you. You’ve been so generous with your time today, Marshall. And it’s been an absolute pleasure to get to speak with you.

Marshall: No, thank you so much. I’ve had a blast. Everyone keep swinging and keep on enjoying the music, you know?

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Timbre (pronounced “tam’-ber”, like the first two syllables of the word “tambourine”) – what does it mean? http://musl.ink/respacktimbr

Timbre refers to what is often called “tone” or “tone color” – the quality of the sound of an instrument or voice. In essence, timbre is what makes one voice, one instrument sound different than another. But, beyond that, each instrument or voice is capable of producing a wide variety of timbres. Mastering and employing these timbres to you own expressive purposes adds a whole new dimension to your musicality.

Timbre can be shifted and shaped with a myriad of techniques – from which part of your finger strikes the string to the subtle touch of a key to how you dial in your electronics. Think of timbre as your musical paint set – whether you’re into rainbows or shades of grey, your tonal palette colors in the lines of your notes and chords.

How important is timbre?

Let’s put it this way: you can tear up your guitar fretboard at 1000 notes per second, play six-part polyphonic supra-vertical improv on your bass, or arrange and play a master mash-up of all Liszt’s Transcendental Études on your piano. But if your guitar sounds like the last strings you put on were dinosaur gut, your bass sounds like rubber bands on a wet shoebox, or your piano is a used mini keyboard purchased for 25 cents at your cat-loving neighbor’s garage sale from a bin marked “Special Discounts on Especially Smelly Items” …

Who wants to listen?

That’s why (in this month’s Instrument Packs) Musical U’s Resident Pros put together these special Resource Packs on the tasty topic of timbre.

http://musl.ink/respacktimbr

Learn more about Musical U Resident Pro Dylan Welsh:
https://www.dwelshmusic.com/

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About Teachers, Coaches, and Mentors

New musicality video:

In this episode, we discuss the roles that teachers, coaches, and mentors play in your musical growth, making connections and distinctions between them to help you understand what kind of help each provides in your journey.

Listen to the episode: http://musl.ink/pod91

Links and Resources

Interview with Andy Wasserman – http://musl.ink/pod90/

Interview with Jimmy Rotheram – http://musl.ink/pod70/

Interview with David Row – http://musl.ink/pod88/

Interview with Jeremy Dittus – http://musl.ink/pod46/

Interview with Casey McCann – http://musl.ink/pod32/

Interview with Shelle Soelberg – http://musl.ink/pod6/

Scott’s Bass Lessons – https://scottsbasslessons.com/

TimTopham.com – https://timtopham.com/

Interview with Steve Nixon – http://musl.ink/pod30/

FreeJazzLessons.com – https://www.freejazzlessons.com/

Interested in Platinum Coaching for musicality? Just email hello@musicalitypodcast.com and put “Platinum Coaching” in the subject line

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Timbral Possibilities, Steal Like An Artist, Musical Minds Think Alike, and Facts About Frequencies

With traditional music learning, we focus on hitting the right notes, at the right time, at the right tempo, with the right fingers, at the right volume, at the… well, you get it.

But are we doing so at the expense of the quality, colour, and overall character of our sound?

While you’re crafting that intricate solo during band practice, you may not realize that the tone of your Telecaster is totally flat and uninteresting. You may be so focussed on mastering that sonata that you don’t realize your piano is out of tune. You’re worried about memorizing those new song lyrics correctly – but at the expense of pronunciation and phrasing.

So take a step back from the technicalities, and listen to your instrument. What do you hear? Does your instrument sound bright, crisp, and in tune?

This week, we hone in on the topic of sound quality. We release a preview for this month’s Resource Pack on timbre, the musical key to understanding the quality of a sound. 88 Piano Keys’ Leila Viss talks about “stealing” ideas from musicians who inspire you and tweaking them to create your own unique sounds and songs. We interview indie rock band Carpool Tunnel on their powerful, guitar-driven sound, and how they honed it. And finally, we hone in on audio frequencies – a topic that goes hand-in-hand with timbre and understanding sound and music – on this week’s teaching episode of The Musicality Podcast.

Timbral Possibilities

Timbre is what differentiates two sounds with the same frequency, lending each a distinct, unique character – in other words, timbre is the reason your piano doesn’t sound like a bassoon.

Timbre resource packIn this month’s addition to our Instrument Packs, our resident pros have put together Resource Packs on the topic of timbre – with both general and instrument-specific advice on working with timbre, from dynamics and articulation, to technique and gear.

Head over to Timbre: Resource Pack Preview for a sneak peek at the valuable tips, frameworks, and exercises that the pros have cooked up for you.

Get a group of guitar players together, and they love to talk about the tricks and tips that they have developed to achieve their sound. No matter where you are on your musical journey, there are always things that you can change that will have a lasting impact on your signature tone. Best Beginner Guitar Today offers 15 quick tips.

When we are reading about music, we often come upon myths that have become common beliefs through repetition and adoption by musicians. Musikinesis explores whether or not a pianist can change their tone by adopting different ways of striking the keys.

Question: How many basses does a bass player want? Answer: One more! As you continue playing, you’ll likely have the urge to expand your musical collection with more and more instruments. Within the bass world, there is a clear distinction between active and passive basses, and many opinions about when to use each. Alex Jennings discusses how he mixes up his bass rotation.

Steal Like An Artist

One thing that is deeply undervalued and misunderstood in the music world is the idea of stealing – that is, taking an idea or element from music you admire, and repurposing it to fit your own musical projects and goals.

Leila Viss interviewThis is a far cry from plagiarism. Instead, copying often opens doors to creativity and experimentation. Though the starting point – like a short melodic motif or a chord progression – is a pre-existing idea, taking your personal brand of musicality to it can yield some unique and fascinating pieces of music.

In Getting Under the Hood, with Leila Viss, the author of the 88 Piano Keys blog talks about how copying her musical inspirations unlocked a world of creativity on her keyboard – and how she now encourages her students to use their inspirations as a starting point for their own musicality.

We loved hearing how Leila was able to take seemingly “simple” songs and understand how much musicality can be expressed through them, even when playing music that could easily be discarded as “easy”. Might Expert lists 50 guitar songs that prove themselves excellent examples.

Leila discussed how she has been particularly inspired by the book “Steal Like an Artist”, using many of its simple tips in her own musicality. This seemingly timeless book has inspired many musicians and other artists to explore their influences in their own creative expression. Daniel Hadaway discusses the lessons he has taken away from the book on his podcast.

As musicians, we often use our trusted friend, favorite tool, and keeper of rhythmic integrity during our practice sessions. Of course, we’re referring to the age-old metronome. But what about going a step further in rhythmic sophistication? Drum tracks are readily available on all devices, and as Mike Soca demonstrates, can help unleash creativity by inspiring you to get outside of your normal rhythm.

We often think of creativity as playing extravagant melodies and swooping solos, but creativity also exists in your ability to use rhythm. There are many simple approaches for becoming more creative in your use of rhythm. Josef at the Creative Piano Academy demonstrates some exercises that will have you plugging away at new rhythmic variations in no time at all.

Musical Minds Think Alike

You and your bandmates likely have a strong glue that holds the band together – a glue consisting of shared dedication, goals, and musical sensibilities.

Carpool Tunnel interviewThis week, we interview San Francisco-based indie rock band Carpool Tunnel, a band with a melodic, seriously punchy sound whose members met through Vampr, an app dedicated to fostering connections between musicians.

In A Meeting of Musical Minds, with Carpool Tunnel, Musical U sits down with the band to ask about their music journeys and influences, how they connected online, and the band’s involved, open-ended songwriting process.

Starting a band can be exciting, inspiring, and… terrifying! How do you find other musicians? What are the first things that you should do when you finally get together? The Denver Music Institute has gives 5 tips to get you started.

Many bands begin by simply taking common tunes that everyone knows and jamming on them. This simple yet powerful act of just playing music together can form the foundation of your musicality and help you learn what everyone’s playing style is like. Most of these tunes will have three or four simple chords, as demonstrated in this video from Guitareo.

Facts About Frequencies

This week, we’re back with another installment on audio frequencies in music and why they matter – this time, focussing on the two major reasons that any musician should learn about them in the first place.

Frequencies in musicIn About Frequencies in Music, Part Two, we discuss how sound is defined in terms of its frequencies, what this means for your instrument, how frequencies can be manipulated, and how this manipulation affects the perceived sound of your playing.

If you want to take the first step towards understanding sound in a complete, clear, and comprehensive way – don’t miss this episode!

Imagine if you were no longer able to hear certain frequencies. Unfortunately, that is something that we will all face as we get older and our ears begin losing some of their natural abilities. Fortunately, there are some things that we can do to protect our hearing as much as possible. Learn more about musicians and hearing loss from The Musician’s Brain.

Mixing music is easy, right? You just adjust this knob, bump up that slider, and things just work. Except that’s never the case! Unfortunately, that’s exactly how many musicians first approach working behind the console. Sound On Time explores the art of mixing music, with excellent tips on handling frequencies, panning, gain, and soundstages.

Learning more about frequencies and the science of music is part of the bigger picture of becoming more musical, no matter where your musical interests lie – and ear training happens to be a critical part of this development! Nathan Lively from Sound Design Live discusses the impact that just 30 days of ear training had for him.

The Specifics of Sound

Frequencies, timbre, tone, color, quality – these are all interrelated ways of thinking about the same overarching concept – how your instrument sounds.

Sound quality is a beautiful thing – it can breathe new life into your well-loved scales, chord progressions, riffs, solos, and melodies, and lend you a deeper understanding of your instrument and the many ways to play it.

The next time you pick up your instrument, think about the character of your sound – is it something you wish to alter, either by using a pedal or with equalization, or perhaps by altering your technique and articulation? Does it sound different depending on the room you are playing in? How can you experiment with it to achieve sounds that convey different tones and moods from what you’re used to hearing?

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